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hysteresis

hysteresis

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Hi folks!

I've been using an excel spreadsheet to record my care transactions with each mantis, including molts, rehousing, etc.

It's getting cumbersome.

I know there's an Android app for Tarantulas. Is there anything similar for mantids?

In absence of such a thing, I thought to port my data into an Access db.

Any thoughts?

TIA

 
id love to know, too. At the mo im just jotting notes down in a little diary but an app or so would be great!

 
I use Google Keep. Not as configurable as a spreadsheet, but it has options to let you add notes, photos, voice memos, and more. It syncs to the cloud, so no worries of losing info. It displays entry previews in card format for easy browsing. Of course, the app is for Android OS, but can be used with any web browser. 

Along with tracking molts, I enter breeder info, transaction details, care sheets, photo records beginning with the breeder's photo representation of species and then photos of the specimens as they mature. Normally, I would use a notebook, but Keep gives me options to import info in a way that is easier to sort and reference. 

Hope this makes sense... I have a terrible hangover so I'm not going to proofread. 😀

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hysteresis said:
Cmon... i don't wanna cross-post onto FB. 😵👎
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Man I was smashed too! Look at me bein' all pushy! 🤣.

What a cool use for Keep! I rely on Keep for scrapbooking bits of info, etc. I'd still prefer Excel over Keep though, for nothing more than the sorting and filtering. Helps me draw inference.

I imported my raw data into Access in all my glorious debauchery. Seems I can create forms with pull downs for entering transaction s. Couldn't make too much sense of it last night though. LOL! And, I can create custom reports, say molts only per mantis, last three feedings, etc. I also log feed rejections (when I remember, again, the spreadsheet gets onerous when your hands are busy) which at a glance correlates food rejections to upcoming molts. We'll see. Im a mechanical engineer, not a developer, or IT guy of any sort. 😜

Here's a record for a spiny. I have yet to rename her from PS1 to PW1. I think I missed recording her last feed, hence thge desire for something less cumbersome:


Date


Species


Mantis


Gender


Event 1


Event 2


Instar


Comment


2019-03-05


Pseudocreobotra wahlbergii


PS1


F


Fed


BBFL


i6


 


2019-03-04


Pseudocreobotra wahlbergii


PS1


F


Fed


BSF


i6


 


2019-03-01


Pseudocreobotra wahlbergii


PS1


F


Fed


BBFL


i6


 


2019-02-27


Pseudocreobotra wahlbergii


PS1


F


Fed


BBF


i6


 


2019-02-26


Pseudocreobotra wahlbergii


PS1


F


Fed


BBF


i6


 


2019-02-25


Pseudocreobotra wahlbergii


PS1


F


Fed


BSFL


i6


 


2019-02-24


Pseudocreobotra wahlbergii


PS1


F


Fed


Pinhead


i6


 


2019-02-23


Pseudocreobotra wahlbergii


PS1


F


Named


Alice Angel


i6


From Bendy


2019-02-23


Pseudocreobotra wahlbergii


PS1


F


Molt


i6


i5


 


2019-02-23


Pseudocreobotra wahlbergii


PS1


F


Fed


Hydei


i6


 


2019-02-22


Pseudocreobotra wahlbergii


PS1


F


Fed


Hydei


i5


 


2019-02-20


Pseudocreobotra wahlbergii


PS1


F


Fed


Hydei


i5


 


2019-02-18


Pseudocreobotra wahlbergii


PS1


F


Fed


Hydei


i5


 


2019-02-17


Pseudocreobotra wahlbergii


PS1


F


Fed


Hydei


i5


 


2019-02-16


Pseudocreobotra wahlbergii


PS1


F


Fed


Pinhead


i5


 


2019-02-11


Pseudocreobotra wahlbergii


PS1


F


Fed


BSFL


i5


 


2019-02-09


Pseudocreobotra wahlbergii


PS1


F


Fed


BSFL


i5


Just a bit. Not much, but ate some for sure.


2019-02-09


Pseudocreobotra wahlbergii


PS1


F


Sexed


F


i5


 


2019-02-08


Pseudocreobotra wahlbergii


PS1


F


Fed


BSFL


i5


 


2019-02-07


Pseudocreobotra wahlbergii


PS1


F


Fed


Hydei


i5


 


2019-02-05


Pseudocreobotra wahlbergii


PS1


F


Fed


BSFL


i5


 


2019-02-02


Pseudocreobotra wahlbergii


PS1


F


Fed


BSFL


i5


 


2019-01-30


Pseudocreobotra wahlbergii


PS1


F


Molt


i5


i4


 


2019-01-30


Pseudocreobotra wahlbergii


PS1


F


Fed


Hydei


i5


 


2019-01-29


Pseudocreobotra wahlbergii


PS1


F


Fed


Pinhead


i4


 


2019-01-26


Pseudocreobotra wahlbergii


PS1


F


Fed


Rejected


i4


 


2019-01-25


Pseudocreobotra wahlbergii


PS1


F


Fed


Pinhead


i4


 


2019-01-16


Pseudocreobotra wahlbergii


PS1


F


Acquired


i4


i4


 

 
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Wow! Y’all are dedicated! May I ask what the purpose of this is (it only reads snooty I promise I’m genuinely curious)? Seems like a lot of work 

 
RebelleSinner said:
Wow! Y’all are dedicated! May I ask what the purpose of this is (it only reads snooty I promise I’m genuinely curious)? Seems like a lot of work 
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It is a lot of work, while it isnt. It gives back history for each nymph. Allows me to draw patterns from their feeding behaviour. It grows me my own data set on molt frequency per species. Once they hit adult, I keep less records because theres less to learn from it. Feeding does affect longevity, but id have to track temp too, and that I dont care to do.

 
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hysteresis said:
Man I was smashed too! Look at me bein' all pushy! 🤣.

What a cool use for Keep! I rely on Keep for scrapbooking bits of info, etc. I'd still prefer Excel over Keep though, for nothing more than the sorting and filtering. Helps me draw inference.

I imported my raw data into Access in all my glorious debauchery. Seems I can create forms with pull downs for entering transaction s. Couldn't make too much sense of it last night though. LOL! And, I can create custom reports, say molts only per mantis, last three feedings, etc. I also log feed rejections (when I remember, again, the spreadsheet gets onerous when your hands are busy) which at a glance correlates food rejections to upcoming molts. We'll see. Im a mechanical engineer, not a developer, or IT guy of any sort. 😜

Here's a record for a spiny. I have yet to rename her from PS1 to PW1. I think I missed recording her last feed, hence thge desire for something less cumbersome:


Date


Species


Mantis


Gender


Event 1


Event 2


Instar


Comment


2019-03-05


Pseudocreobotra wahlbergii


PS1


F


Fed


BBFL


i6


 


2019-03-04


Pseudocreobotra wahlbergii


PS1


F


Fed


BSF


i6


 


2019-03-01


Pseudocreobotra wahlbergii


PS1


F


Fed


BBFL


i6


 


2019-02-27


Pseudocreobotra wahlbergii


PS1


F


Fed


BBF


i6


 


2019-02-26


Pseudocreobotra wahlbergii


PS1


F


Fed


BBF


i6


 


2019-02-25


Pseudocreobotra wahlbergii


PS1


F


Fed


BSFL


i6


 


2019-02-24


Pseudocreobotra wahlbergii


PS1


F


Fed


Pinhead


i6


 


2019-02-23


Pseudocreobotra wahlbergii


PS1


F


Named


Alice Angel


i6


From Bendy


2019-02-23


Pseudocreobotra wahlbergii


PS1


F


Molt


i6


i5


 


2019-02-23


Pseudocreobotra wahlbergii


PS1


F


Fed


Hydei


i6


 


2019-02-22


Pseudocreobotra wahlbergii


PS1


F


Fed


Hydei


i5


 


2019-02-20


Pseudocreobotra wahlbergii


PS1


F


Fed


Hydei


i5


 


2019-02-18


Pseudocreobotra wahlbergii


PS1


F


Fed


Hydei


i5


 


2019-02-17


Pseudocreobotra wahlbergii


PS1


F


Fed


Hydei


i5


 


2019-02-16


Pseudocreobotra wahlbergii


PS1


F


Fed


Pinhead


i5


 


2019-02-11


Pseudocreobotra wahlbergii


PS1


F


Fed


BSFL


i5


 


2019-02-09


Pseudocreobotra wahlbergii


PS1


F


Fed


BSFL


i5


Just a bit. Not much, but ate some for sure.


2019-02-09


Pseudocreobotra wahlbergii


PS1


F


Sexed


F


i5


 


2019-02-08


Pseudocreobotra wahlbergii


PS1


F


Fed


BSFL


i5


 


2019-02-07


Pseudocreobotra wahlbergii


PS1


F


Fed


Hydei


i5


 


2019-02-05


Pseudocreobotra wahlbergii


PS1


F


Fed


BSFL


i5


 


2019-02-02


Pseudocreobotra wahlbergii


PS1


F


Fed


BSFL


i5


 


2019-01-30


Pseudocreobotra wahlbergii


PS1


F


Molt


i5


i4


 


2019-01-30


Pseudocreobotra wahlbergii


PS1


F


Fed


Hydei


i5


 


2019-01-29


Pseudocreobotra wahlbergii


PS1


F


Fed


Pinhead


i4


 


2019-01-26


Pseudocreobotra wahlbergii


PS1


F


Fed


Rejected


i4


 


2019-01-25


Pseudocreobotra wahlbergii


PS1


F


Fed


Pinhead


i4


 


2019-01-16


Pseudocreobotra wahlbergii


PS1


F


Acquired


i4


i4


 
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That's quite some dedication.  I use Excel as well and i really only track molts with some basic identifying info.  I feel like using Access is best suited for large data sets but considering that you track so many data points you might find a good use for it.

 
Yes Access. Someone on FB Mantis Keepers suggested RFID stickers that open a db form for each cup on mobile via NFC.

Except they use Google Forms.

They track 70 snakes that way. 🤣

 
You track feeding as well?😂 that’s a lot of work, for tarantulas it’s understandable, they don’t eat that often, but mantises? 

Maybe sperate our the data on another sheet? That way the data will be less clumped~

 
I havent revisited using a db form yet because I've been swamped with work, but i think thats how I'll do it. If I use RFID stickers, I dont even have to select the mantis. Just the transaction,  and a modifier. With forms, I can select from a list. Easy. Just click click save.

Yes, I log feeds, rejections, molts. Acquisitions, and deaths. And, rehomes when they grow into a bigger enclosure. 

Later... matings, ooths, etc. Every nymph has a number. 

If I pass some nymphs along, there will be a record for the recipient to carry on with, in full confidence. 

👍

 
I don't keep records of my mantids... Looks like it is a lot of work.

What I do is making a photo book where you can see the nympfs grow (with some comments) then I have some remeberance of them when they are gone. (first book on the group I have now is almost 50 pages so almost ready to  print.)

 
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My Google Form is ready and in use.

I select from a pull down list. First the mantis, then what I do, then an option for a note (not required). Done.

Works from any of my devices, saved to my Google Drive. 👍

 
I tried a variety of apps and didn't like any of them. I ended up just dedicating a notebook to it and writing by hand. I try to get the hatch date from the breeder, write each molt, each medical event, the time of order, shipping, and receipt, and death. For my picky mantises I will track feeding so that I can know exactly how long it has been.

 
ohaple said:
I tried a variety of apps and didn't like any of them. I ended up just dedicating a notebook to it and writing by hand. I try to get the hatch date from the breeder, write each molt, each medical event, the time of order, shipping, and receipt, and death. For my picky mantises I will track feeding so that I can know exactly how long it has been.
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Yep. You should look into Google Forms. Works very nice.

AND, If you use the NFC stickers, you can program one to each mantis record. You don't even have to select the animal you're entering a record for.

The output is a nice spreadsheet for each record (they call it a response).

 

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