Cross Breeding Mantises

[iLUVdraguhns]

Is it even possible? I've never seen anyone do it.

 

[Extrememantid]

People have tried.. I know there have been a few but only in the same genus eg. (Rhombodera stalii and rhombodera valida) that kind of thing.. I don't think anyone has actually tried to cross breed those species btw.. That was just an example

 

[Rick]

Do a search here. This has been discussed in detail already.

 

[I_love_mantids]

everyone says it's impossible. But I think there must be a way to do it! I came up with an idea of how to maybe crossbreed. But first I must get the adults I need. I have ooths of different species and when they are adults, I will try. I'm not going to tell you how to do it though. Sorry

 

[Extrememantid]

everyone says it's impossible. But I think there must be a way to do it! I came up with an idea of how to maybe crossbreed. But first I must get the adults I need. I have ooths of different species and when they are adults, I will try. I'm not going to tell you how to do it though. Sorry

You might as well spill it because if you fail, someone else might not. That's kind of ignorant. Or you don't even know how to do it lol

 

[I_love_mantids]

If it doesn't work for me, then I will give it to someone else. I just don't want someone to do it before me! The first ones I will try to crossbreed is european and chinese. Then I will do more exotic ones.

 

[I_love_mantids]

I just don't have adults yet

 

[Paradoxica]

People have reported breeding Hybrids from two species within the same Genus (I think I recall two different creobroter species being bred) but the offspring are never fertile. So, while creating a Hybrid within a Genus is possible (sometimes) it seems really unlikely that two different Genera that are only related by Family could be compatible.

 

[I_love_mantids]

you are probably right paradoxica.But I'm not just going to do it how people usually breed mantids. I came up with something different that MIGHT work.

 

[mantiseater]

If it doesn't work for me, then I will give it to someone else. I just don't want someone to do it before me! The first ones I will try to crossbreed is european and chinese. Then I will do more exotic ones.

I found a European female mating with a Chinese male at a park a few years ago. I caught the pair and brought them home. the female never laid an egg and she got so fat her abdomen burst.

 

[I_love_mantids]

I've seen pictures of that. I would do male european and female chinese. That way there will be more room for the ooth! The abdomen probably bursted because the offspring was too big!

 

[SilentDeviL]

I have already mated Polyspilota aeruginosa & Polyspilota griffinii Hybrid and the Nymphs from the hatching ooth grow to Adult . and mated with her brothers . so yes is possible with in the same sp I'm waiting for the ooth to hatch . to prove the success ...but the point is it has to hatch to this story to continue.

 

[I_love_mantids]

That is cool. But I am thinking different. I'm thinking different sp. And for anyone who thinks it's impossible, I'm just being optimistic

 

[Extrememantid]

That is cool. But I am thinking different. I'm thinking different sp. And for anyone who thinks it's impossible, I'm just being optimistic

Why would it matter if someone beat you to it? It would just be useful for you.. If it works for them it might work for you.. If not why waste your time?

 

[Ranitomeya]

Most attempts at hybridization will fail due to structural incompatibility. It's like trying to unlock something using the wrong key--the key does not fit. If they do happen to mate successfully, they may not be able to produce viable offspring after the eggs are fertilized and laid due to incompatible chromosomes and genes. If viable offspring is somehow produced despite incompatible chromosomes--usually a result of mating two separate, but closely related species--we often see one or both sexes of the offspring being infertile. There are exceptions of course, but those are rare and often evidence that the two species are much more closely related than previously thought.

I've seen pictures of that. I would do male european and female chinese. That way there will be more room for the ooth! The abdomen probably bursted because the offspring was too big!

Mantids, like most insects, do not produce fertilized eggs until the process of egg laying. Eggs must pass by the spermatheca where sperm from mating is stored so that they can be fertilized through the micropyle just prior to being laid. The genetics of the male does not determine the number of eggs produced--the number of eggs within a female is determined by her genetics and nutrition and not the genes of the male mantis.

 

[Rick]

That is cool. But I am thinking different. I'm thinking different sp. And for anyone who thinks it's impossible, I'm just being optimistic

It isn't possible. That is why there are different species to begin with. Ranitomeya explained it already. If you doubt what he said I suggest taking a basic genetics class. The only way you can crossbreed is between species of the same genus that are already very closely related.

 

[Krissim Klaw]

Since there are already so many different speicies of mantises out there, with vastly different looks,I don't see what the excitement would be in trying to cross breed in the first place.

 

[I_love_mantids]

But wouldn't it be cool to have an orchid/ghost hybrid?

 

[Extrememantid]

But wouldn't it be cool to have an orchid/ghost hybrid?

Yea.. But that's why we can dream lol