They haaaaaaatched!!!!!!!!!

[hysteresis]

As for the type of fruit flies ............I’m not sure what they are.... I’m sorry I know it’s ridiculous but those were the only fruit flies available to me from my LPS.

https://www.kijiji.ca/v-reptiles-amphibiens/longueuil-rive-sud/grande-variete-de-grenouilles-en-magasin/1406173235?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true.

You might also try small nymph springtails, but I dunno.

 

[omar morsy]

https://www.kijiji.ca/v-reptiles-amphibiens/longueuil-rive-sud/grande-variete-de-grenouilles-en-magasin/1406173235?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true.

You might also try small nymph springtails, but I dunno.

Thank you so much you guys are amazing! Truly!

 

[omar morsy]

So I just added between 6 to 8 fruit flies per cup. And I re-misted the cups a second time 12 hours later today. 

The good news is I did see a couple of cups with no fruit flies in it at all!!!

but that’s just a couple out of 61

in any case now they have 7 to 8 fruit flies per cup. I hope the fruit flies starve before the Nymphs do.

I contacted the kijiji frog breeder. Let’s hope he has melanogastor fruit flies.

cheers and thank you all again and again. 

 

[Graceface]

Remember, i'm still a novice. Don't take my advice unsupported by someone else.

Hydei are larger than melanogaster. What FF do you have?

Maybe 2X FF per nymph isn't enough, based on how densely distributed the FF are.

16 oz deli cups are too big for L1 nymphs IMO.

So three things:

• are your FF too big for spinys?
  
• is there enough FF density for your cups?
  
• maybe you should look into 2 oz or 4 oz deli cups
  

@Aristalochia taught me to put 5X FF per nymph in the 4 oz deli cups. As I am using small mason jars (like a small standard marmalade jar), we increased that to 15X FF based on volume. They ate like crazy.

I have no experience with Spinys, but I have hatched ooth and raised nymphs. 

16oz cups are definitely too big for individual nymphs of that size. I would keep them in 2 or 4oz portion cups, as @hysteresis mentioned. Restaurant supply stores typically have those in stock. I modified the lids of mine with a fine mesh.

Again, I haven't raised Spinys so I don't know how small they are but... You probably need Melanogasters, which are much smaller than Hydeii. My Ghosts needed Melanogasters at L1/2. I would feed 4 to 6 FF per nymph per feeding. 

Good luck! 

 

[hysteresis]

@Graceface ... L2/L3 ghosts and spinys should be okay with hydei?

I want to make sure i'm ready. Hope I don't need to get a melanogaster culture for eight nymphs.

 

[omar morsy]

Well that’s my morning tomorrow. First thing I will do is find 2 or 4 ounce cups. Then call every single pet shop and go over kijiji to find melanogasters.

ill sort this out quick!

 

[Graceface]

@Graceface ... L2/L3 ghosts and spinys should be okay with hydei?

I want to make sure i'm ready. Hope I don't need to get a melanogaster culture for eight nymphs.

I can't speak for the Spinys, since I've never raised them. The Ghosts will be fine, though. 

 

[hysteresis]

I can't speak for the Spinys, since I've never raised them. The Ghosts will be fine, though. 

Thank you. 

 

[Aristalochia]

Hey Omar Congrats, I told you not to give up! Hope you are having fun with your babies

 

[omar morsy]

Hey Omar Congrats, I told you not to give up! Hope you are having fun with your babies

I totally am, it’s turning out to be one of my fav hobbies, don’t think I’ll ever go back to saltwater tanks. 

So the update of the day.

I found melanogasters!!!

a woman who lives 9 minutes away breeds them.

I blasted the heating to 78 Fahrenheit.

I then transferred all 60 Nymphs into 7 ounce wine cups. Added paper towel at the bottom. Mister it three times. Cut a small piece of popsicle stick and added about a dozen melanogasters in each cup. For a lid I used coffee filters and attached them with a rubber band.

Before I was done I saw about half of my Nymphs already munching away.

total success!

Thanx folks for all the advice. As you can see they don’t fall on deaf ears

 

[Graceface]

Love the wine glasses! Cheers!

 

[omar morsy]

CHEEEEEERS!!!

DING!

 

[hysteresis]

CHEEEEEERS!!!

DING!

I'd drink whiskey out of those, 100%.

 

[Aristalochia]

Lookin good. Who needs a mescal worm when you have a mantids?

 

[hysteresis]

Lookin good. Who needs a mescal worm when you have a mantids?

Yeeehhhhh

 

[MantisGirl13]

It looks like you figured it out! I have never raised spinys yet, but I have a subadult pair that I hope to breed eventually! 

- MantisGirl13

 

[hysteresis]

@omar morsy, any more ooth hatch yet?

 

[omar morsy]

No not yet but I am expecting a second hatch by end of the week. The cooler weather has added a couple of weeks to each Ooth.

I already got all the cups ready though

 

[hysteresis]

Amazing!

 

[MantisGirl13]

No not yet but I am expecting a second hatch by end of the week. The cooler weather has added a couple of weeks to each Ooth.

I already got all the cups ready though

Awesome! Keep us updated!

- MantisGirl13