Ok so this is driving me crazy... I have 2 creos. Both came at the same time from mantidmike. One has elongated wings, and one has teeny tiny wings like a mini version of the other one when they became adult. At first I though oh, a male and a female but now Idk. I have been looking at all the pics trying to see if they are gemmatus or apicalis or pictipennis... But they came from the same batch. Uggghhh , anyway I will post pics when I get home from new jersey for much needed help. Nice pics ...