Budwing gone fishin

[Mvalenz]

Wasn't sure if this belongs in photos or food and feeding. But i thought it was kinda neat.

I saw some mantids eating goldfish and wondered if my budwing would do the same thing. She molted a couple of days ago and figured she was probably hungry so I tried and sure enough she went for it. I had to coax the goldfish a little though.

http://youtu.be/XWl6YeamN70

 

[CoolMantid]

Dang! i should try that. If theres is a photo. It wont load for me.

 

[CoolMantid]

Nevermind it loaded.

 

[Mvalenz]

You can't see it? It's a video.

 

[agent A]

I love it!!! did she eat the whole thing? is she subadult now???

 

[CoolMantid]

No it loaded when i refreshed the page.

 

[Bryce08]

thats so cool...NOW i wanna try! haha....I saw another video of another mantis eating a goldfhish.

 

[lunarstorm]

This topic (mantids consuming goldfish) isn't new to the board, I recommend using the search function if you're curious to learn more. But if my memory serves, the act of an invertebrate consuming a vertebrate is/was controversial for some.

Tread lightly with this, it would be unfortunate to reopen old wounds.

 

[Mvalenz]

I love it!!! did she eat the whole thing? is she subadult now???

She is L-6. By the way how many molts before subadult?

For the first time she did not clean her plate. She ate a little more than half then tossed the rest aside. She has a pretty good arm too. She tossed it about three inches.

 

[Gill]

But if my memory serves, the act of an invertebrate consuming a vertebrate is/was controversial for some.

Yes, I for one get angry and upset at unnecessary animal cruelty for fun like this.

 

[gripen]

yeah i find it a little much myself. i know it was a feeder goldfish but still.

 

[Mvalenz]

This topic (mantids consuming goldfish) isn't new to the board, I recommend using the search function if you're curious to learn more. But if my memory serves, the act of an invertebrate consuming a vertebrate is/was controversial for some.

Tread lightly with this, it would be unfortunate to reopen old wounds.

Just did a search and did not realize this was such a delicate topic. I wont get into a debate because I feel that it was all said before. Admin can delete if they want.

 

[angelofdeathzz]

You don't want to be the "Michael Vick" of the mantis world, do you? lol.

 

[frogparty]

What's the big deal? It's a FEEDER FISH! Who gives a rate ###### what eats it? It's bred to be food for something. Tarantula and centipede keepers feed pinkies all the time. Why not vertebrates for mantids? I GUARANTEE you that a big mantis eats anything it can catch, vertebrate or not.

 

[gripen]

What's the big deal? It's a FEEDER FISH! Who gives a rate ###### what eats it? It's bred to be food for something. Tarantula and centipede keepers feed pinkies all the time. Why not vertebrates for mantids? I GUARANTEE you that a big mantis eats anything it can catch, vertebrate or not.

http://www.ukmantisforums.co.uk/showthread.php?t=9678&p=72654#post72654

 

[frogparty]

That post had 0 useful info in it. Live prey isn't illegal in the USA. Feeder fish aren't going to "over calcify" their exoskeleton with just a random feeding, and I have t seen anyone post a scientific paper proving its even possible. I don't believe or listen to heresy. I have fed hundreds of mice to snakes, monitors, tiger salamanders and tarantulas over the years, I don't feel bad for them or feeder fish.

 

[gripen]

yeah i dont fell bad either. i just think that it was wasteful because there was no way the mantis was going to eat the whole fish.

 

[frogparty]

So just use a smaller fish like a feeder guppy.

 

[gripen]

yup im fine with that.