BUDWING OR WIDE-ARM!!

[MantidLord]

Okay, this is my fourth time asking, and my second thread. For some reason, my first thread has disapeared :angry: So I ask: Can someone who has experience with BOTH species please inform me which would be considered the most aggressive overall!!?. Also, if you can please give me a size comparison (picture not needed, but is accepted) and some general information of wide-arms. I can't find any info on my searches along the internet. And yes, I have used the scientific name. Thank-you in advance.

 

[obregon562]

wide arm are by far the more aggresive of the two. by far. even as little guys, they avidly chase down fruit flies all around the cage, picking up "extras" as they go. Mine have had a fruit fly in each arm and one in its mouth before. As adults, they are bigger than budwings

Budwings...not so much. They are active, but not neccesarily aggresive. They will still take on a ton of fruits flies, but at a more leisurly pace. Budwings are more colorful though, if it means anything. Nice stick-like patterns. \

Hope this helps!

Frankie

 

[hibiscusmile]

Hands down, Wide arm more aggressive. But depending on species, budwings can reach bigger than the wide arm.

 

[The_Asa]

Wide arms are far more aggressive than Budwings.

 

[MantidLord]

Thank-you all very much Can anyone tell me some of the common species of budwings besides african budwings? And are there different species of wide-arms?

 

[Birdfly]

Bud wing is a common name used for the genus Parasphendale namely P agrionina & affinis because they have brachypterus (reduced/vestigle wings)

Also immature mantids developing wing cases are often refered to as "wing buds".

I think you mean can we tell you of some brachypterus mantids??

In which case:

Iris oratoria Tarachodes sp, Tarachodula sp, Solygia sulcatifrons, Cilnia humeralis, Miomantis sp are a few but there are loads more, loads.

Cant answer the last one but i think Cilnia are monotypic??

 

[Meiji]

Bud wing is a common name used for the genus Parasphendale namely P agrionina & affinis because they have brachypterus (reduced/vestigle wings)Also immature mantids developing wing cases are often refered to as "wing buds".

I think you mean can we tell you of some brachypterus mantids??

In which case:

Iris oratoria Tarachodes sp, Tarachodula sp, Solygia sulcatifrons, Cilnia humeralis, Miomantis sp are a few but there are loads more, loads.

Cant answer the last one but i think Cilnia are monotypic??

My project for the last week or so has been adding http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_manti...era_and_species to Wikipedia. You might find it useful to very quickly see what other species belong to a given genus.

 

[MantidLord]

@Birdfly: I actually meant the Parasphendale genus, I was just to dumb to say so The only species I have so far is Iris oratoria, and as you stated, the females do have reduced wings. So here are my final three questions for thistopic: What would the most common Parasphendale species be? What would be the most aggressive in your opinion? And which one would be of relative size to Clinia humeralis

@Meji: Excellent job on the wikipedia site. I searched the web often to find out if Iris oratoria was the only species in its genus, and found nothing until now. So yes, the site proved very useful, please keep up the good work

Thank-you both for the great information. I really appreciate you guys sharing your knowledge, thank-you

 

[Birdfly]

I had a look on the site too, seems there is another Cilnia sp although no photos.

Commonest Parasphendale species, hmm, hard to say, cant remember which one of the two species i had now, both pretty similar to one another and jsut as common imo, i dont know how to tell them apart but it has to be affinis or agrionina both would be bigger than Cilnia humeralis but not by a lot, Cilnia being the most aggressive (if thats the right word) just look at the build of it, its forearms are massive compared to any other mantis i know other than some of the boxer types.. but theirs are more ornamental compared to Cilnia.

Cilnia, as a small nymph is much like any other mantis nymph in terms of build and aggresion but as they grow and their forearms develop so does their confidence, strength & tenacity.

I'll post some pics of my Cilnia nymphs later when i've walked the dogs in photo section, i have'nt got any of Parasphendale

 

[MantidLord]

Thank you Bird fly. I'd appreciate all and any photos of either genus. Thanks alot