"Congo Green" Oootheca received today

[patrickfraser]

I've been told more likely a sphodromantis sp.?

Just had to share this cactus flower from today. It will be gone tomorrow. AWWWW

 

[GreenOasis]

Okay, second time I have seen an ooth called "Congo Green" and it looks nothing like the one I received from Chris"p" which is what it's supposed to be!

CHRIS!? :angry: Care to share???

 

[myzticalboi]

Okay, second time I have seen an ooth called "Congo Green" and it looks nothing like the one I received from Chris"p" which is what it's supposed to be!

CHRIS!? :angry: Care to share???

This is what my congo green ooth looks like, but this was in the summer time.

 

[GreenOasis]

Yeah, the one I got from Chris looks nothing like either of those. It is a soft, pale green thing. I'll have to take a pic. Now, I'm curious what the HECK it is! :huh: Of course, I've been incubating it for like, a month now, and still no changes, so I doubt it will even hatch.

 

[patrickfraser]

I guess we will just have to wait and see what develops...LITERALLY. LOL. I will post any "developments" and photos when available.

 

[patrickfraser]

Yeah, the one I got from Chris looks nothing like either of those. It is a soft, pale green thing. I'll have to take a pic. Now, I'm curious what the HECK it is! :huh: Of course, I've been incubating it for like, a month now, and still no changes, so I doubt it will even hatch.

I showed you mine. Will you show me yours???

 

[GreenOasis]

*AHEM!* Well, since you ask so nicely!

(I had planned to anyway, just busy!)

Here is the "front" of the ooth:

And here is the side/back:

Now, I don't know if y'all can tell, but it has a slight greenish tinge. It also looks "powdery" (though it is not really.) I can't help but think that Chris, either intentionally or not, has made some sort of mistake here. You guys both have ooths labelled "congo green" from your sources, so...two against one that mine's NOT a congo green.

Hopefully, Chris gets on here soon to clear this up, but...I haven't seen or heard from him since I got this ooth. :blink:

 

[yen_saw]

If the green congo is the Sphodromantis sp. neither oothecae looks like it. Sorry.

 

[patrickfraser]

If the green congo is the Sphodromantis sp. neither oothecae looks like it. Sorry.

UH OH!

What do these oothecae appear to be? I can only go with the information I receive and the usual photo supplied of mating (actual photo or not is another story). I guess I will have to wait for it to hatch (hopefully) and ask for an ID of what it is. I DO NOT want to pass on or sell anything off using wrong or ill-supplied information. Thank you for your expertise and contributions to this forum and to the mantid hobby.

 

[GreenOasis]

Here are a couple of links to some "guides" I found for ooth identification.

http://insectstore.com/praying_mantis_ootheca_guide_identification.php

http://mantisonline.de/index.php?lan=en&show=ooths&content=a:2:{s:7:%22subshow%22%3Bs:15:%22species_mantids%22%3Bs:10:%22level_left%22%3Bs:3:%22all%22%3B}

Of course, neither are very thorough, especially of the N. American species. Maybe SOMEone will post a better (or at least additional) guide here soon? (Looking at you, Yen!)

By the way...Yen, have you seen an ooth that looks like the one I posted? Ever?

 

[patrickfraser]

Here are a couple of links to some "guides" I found for ooth identification.

http://insectstore.c...ntification.php

http://mantisonline....3:%22all%22%3B}

Of course, neither are very thorough, especially of the N. American species. Maybe SOMEone will post a better (or at least additional) guide here soon? (Looking at you, Yen!)

By the way...Yen, have you seen an ooth that looks like the one I posted? Ever?

So many look so similar. I better stop thinking about all this. Great information, GreenOasis. Thanks

 

[yen_saw]

UH OH!

What do these oothecae appear to be? I can only go with the information I receive and the usual photo supplied of mating (actual photo or not is another story). I guess I will have to wait for it to hatch (hopefully) and ask for an ID of what it is. I DO NOT want to pass on or sell anything off using wrong or ill-supplied information. Thank you for your expertise and contributions to this forum and to the mantid hobby.

To be honest I have no idea, it is best to check it with the person who sold you the ootheca, good luck on the ootheca.

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By the way...Yen, have you seen an ooth that looks like the one I posted? Ever?

Parasphendale agrionina, Polyspilota aeruginosa, Tenodera sp. just to name a few.

 

[patrickfraser]

I guess an unknown ootheca is "like a box of chocolates" or a wrapped Christmas present. I just hope it is something I like, as returns are IMPOSSBLE once opened. LOL

 

[Gill]

This is one of my Congo Greens (Sphrodomantis cf aurea ) with an ooth.

 

[patrickfraser]

Thank you...Thank you...Thank you. We have a winner. At least a definite photo representation of the "elusive" congo green mantis ootheca (with mother too boot!). I feel a little more confident now, but still not certain after Yen Saw's first post of basically "not it". Then a post of "not sure". I will find out in 4-6 weeks as I am allowing some transit time as incubation.

 

[patrickfraser]

This is one of my Congo Greens (Sphrodomantis cf aurea ) with an ooth.

Do you have any front view shots to compare the "escape hatches". Thanks

 

[Gill]

I can get some. I ahve quite a number of ooths.

 

[GreenOasis]

I can get some. I ahve quite a number of ooths.

Heh, heh...you willing to send overseas?

 

[GreenOasis]

I guess an unknown ootheca is "like a box of chocolates" or a wrapped Christmas present. I just hope it is something I like, as returns are IMPOSSBLE once opened. LOL

Unless, like me, you find that the chances are slim, at best, that the ooth would even hatch! I'm seriously doubting it at this point!