Help to ID these Mantids

[Xin]

**EDIT: Refer to the 2nd page for my next couple of mantids for ID**

Just a couple of days ago I caught what looks like an adult mantis, green colored.

My little brother caught TWO mantids at his elementary school for me

Im pretty new to Praying Mantis care so I dont know what species are my 3 Mantids, but I do know that they all could be males.

Now here are the picssorry for the quality)

~>My first one

~>Same one, back view

~> Second one, front view. Oh and this one has a purplish neck and everything else is green. I was thinking its a bruise or something.

~> Third one, I really dont know, 2 pictures

*So I would like to know their scientific names and their common names.

 

[yen_saw]

Looks like an adult male Stagmomantis sp. Not sure about the exact species, where are you located?

 

[hibiscusmile]

The one with purple neck is a Chinese or Tenodora Aridifolia Sininsis

It's not a bruise, just one of its markings!

 

[OGIGA]

I think the "Third one" looks Chinese.

 

[Xin]

Looks like an adult male Stagmomantis sp. Not sure about the exact species, where are you located?

You mean the first one?

Well Im in California, LA.

And the brown one has some white stripe running down it's abdomen

And if the brown one and purple one are actually chinese, then Im happy! I heard they get big!

 

[hibiscusmile]

http://mantidforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8107

here is a colored pic of the two colors the Chinese come in, if yours match these, then your in luck

 

[yen_saw]

Looks like an adult male Stagmomantis sp. Not sure about the exact species, where are you located?

You mean the first one?

Well Im in California, LA.

And the brown one has some white stripe running down it's abdomen

And if the brown one and purple one are actually chinese, then Im happy! I heard they get big!

No the second one, not sure about the first one either sorry. Stagmomantis sp has bulging eye.

 

[hibiscusmile]

Y :shock: ou must have some eyesight yen, how can u see that?

 

[Xin]

Okay well the first two have that green on their sides that are greener than everything else, and I cant tell if that light part if part of their top wing, which could make them Stagmomantis, or if it was their bottom wing, which would make them Chinese, Im still observing

For the Third one(Brown), I took a closer pic, side view

 

[joossa]

Since you’re in the LA area, check all of them for a red-orange to a light orange spot on the UNDERSIDE of their abdomens. The spot is big and is either on the second or fourth (depending on the gender) to last segment of their abdomen. If any of them have this, then their ID is Iris oratoria. If none of them have it, then you just ruled out the species!

The first one definitely looks like a Stagmomantis as Yen mentioned. Once you see the bulging eyes of the species, you don’t forget it. It could be either S. limbata or S. californica.

 

[Xin]

Since you’re in the LA area, check all of them for a red-orange to a light orange spot on the UNDERSIDE of their abdomens. The spot is big and is either on the second or fourth (depending on the gender) to last segment of their abdomen. If any of them have this, then their ID is Iris oratoria. If none of them have it, then you just ruled out the species!The first one definitely looks like a Stagmomantis as Yen mentioned. Once you see the bulging eyes of the species, you don’t forget it. It could be either S. limbata or S. californica.

I checked their undersides and found no red-orange or yelow like spot, so theyre definately not Iris Oratoria

and now to narrow it down

*Mantis 1 is Stagmomantis

*Mantis 2 is Chinese

Mantis 3 COULD be Chinese

 

[Precious]

Ok. I'm not the sharpest tool in this shed...but I don't think the second is Chinese...the shield should be more elongated and the wings appear to have a pattern...I don't see the prominent green strip down the length of the wings.

The third one really looks like a Chinese to me, L7? Female.

I dunno.

 

[Xin]

Ok. I'm not the sharpest tool in this shed...but I don't think the second is Chinese...the shield should be more elongated and the wings appear to have a pattern...I don't see the prominent green strip down the length of the wings. The third one really looks like a Chinese to me, L7? Female.

I dunno.

Ok, then one and two are definately Stag^^

Oh and I doubt the 3rd is an L7 XD, its actually very small - 1 1/2 inches

 

[Rick]

I don't think any of those are chinese.

 

[the mantinator]

but the second one has a really skinny neck. All the ones ive caught have a bit thicker necks ( i mean thorax) Wich leads me to believe it's not chinese.

 

[joossa]

but the second one has a really skinny neck

...which is a key characteristic of most Stagmomantis sp.

 

[Precious]

Okay well the first two have that green on their sides that are greener than everything else, and I cant tell if that light part if part of their top wing, which could make them Stagmomantis, or if it was their bottom wing, which would make them Chinese, Im still observingFor the Third one(Brown), I took a closer pic, side view

I told you I'm not the sharpest tool in this shed. That said, I'm looking at this photo and looking at my Chinese and even subtle details look the same. I certainly defer to the experts here, but this guy looks like my Chinese. What do you guys see that I'm missing?

 

[Xin]

Ok guys bad news :?

Second mantid(purple necked), got his head eaten by Mantid 1..

Poor headless thing, trying to walk.. Poor guy had to go to the Freezer, R.I.P.

Well, My little bro caught another brown colored mantid at his school, and it has greenish legs, and it had a green part at either the top wing or the bottom wing that I see the bright green on.

 

[Precious]

You didn't see that one coming?