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Message: <blockquote data-quote="mcervig@yahoo.com" data-source="post: 282917" data-attributes="member: 7562">Could you tell me if I am in the ball park? I have a hypothesis:I have observed that when a mantid survives the "black death,"  even though they throw up, they seem to accumulate some kind of internal dark sticky substance. This substance seems to internally clot (like our cholesterol in atherosclerosis).  For example, sometimes their eyes will start to accumulate this substance and turn dark.  It is most observed when they lay ooths right after having the "black death."  Their ooths will have this dark sticky substance all over.So this is my guess:  I believe that this substance is something in their hemolymph trapping pathogens.  Their bodies make it to trap the bacteria or mold, or whatever else is toxic and could kill them.  This substance unfortunately sticks and clots and stays with them the rest of their lives.  So the next time they get sick, they have much less chance of surviving. Their bodies try to trap more pathogens and make more of this substance which clots their insides so bad, that they cannot function and then they die.Am I completely wrong?  What is that substance, and do you know how to get rid of it? What is the pathogenesis of the "black death"?</blockquote>