Male or female Pseudocreobotra?

[piroxi]

Hello

Need help.

As I am never for 100 % shure I better ask.

Male or female.

Think both are female.

Pseudocreo. no 1

http://i902.photobucket.com/albums/ac227/piroxi/Bild001.jpg

http://i902.photobucket.com/albums/ac227/piroxi/Bild003.jpg

Pseudocreo no. 2

http://i902.photobucket.com/albums/ac227/piroxi/Bild004.jpg

http://i902.photobucket.com/albums/ac227/piroxi/Bild006.jpg

Thanks for the answers.

 

[jrh3]

FEMALE :cowboy:

 

[ismart]

Both are famales.

 

[Termite48]

At an immediate glance, both look to be females. It does not help you for us to just vote female. You should see what we are seeing. The males will have much more of a wing overhanging past the abdomen. The male has a much thinner look from the side as the abdomen is not round in cross section, but rather flat. The spines are not really very visible from the dorsal view as with the females. Have fun!