Ooth hatch numbers

[meaganelise9]

I keep thinking. You know what I wish we had? A list of species and the minimum, maximum, and average numbers of nymphs out of an ootheca for that species. Wouldn't that be handy? I don't know if everyone cares about those numbers, but it's certainly something I consider before buying an ooth from someone, since I have to know if I really have the resources to make the most of them. I don't like to have unnecessary deaths. What do you guys think? If such a thing doesn't exist, I'd be happy to start compiling.

 

[patrickfraser]

http://www.mantisonline.de/index.php?lan=en&show=species&content=a:2:{s:7:%22subshow%22;s:15:%22species_mantids%22;s:10:%22level_left%22;s:3:%22all%22;}

You can find some here. Check under breeding for the species...If it's there.

 

[meaganelise9]

Well, I've been there. It would just be nice to have those particular numbers in one concise document.

 

[patrickfraser]

Get to compiling, I guess.

 

[kr1cket]

Get to compiling, I guess.

lol....

 

[meaganelise9]

haha true..

 

[Rick]

That would take a lot of time to compile. I don't think it is really that feasible. Ooths from the same female can vary in hatch rate and so can ooths within the same species. Then you add in environmental and other factors................ way too many variables.

 

[angelofdeathzz]

Rick is right on this one, I've had as many 77 and as little as 18 nymphs hatch from Idolo ooths, all given the same care to the mom's and the ooths, it would be a in general number like 20-40 or 50-90 and so on, no real way to tell till the present unwraps itself. But it would be awesome if you could know ahead of time. :detective:

If you have access to a X-ray machine it may help but all the nymphs would come out with 3 heads then. :lol:

 

[gripen]

Rick is right on this one, I've had as many 77 and as little as 18 nymphs hatch from Idolo ooths, all given the same care to the mom's and the ooths, it would be a in general number like 20-40 or 50-90 and so on, no real way to tell till the present unwraps itself. But it would be awesome if you could know ahead of time. :detective:

If you have access to a X-ray machine it may help but all the nymphs would come out with 3 heads then. :lol:

wait idolos dont have three heads normally :helpsmilie:

 

[meaganelise9]

That's true. That's why I was thinking more of an average.

 

[patrickfraser]

You need a lot of data to come up with an "average". I'd say anywhere from 1-300 could hatch, depending on species. :lol:

 

[gripen]

what about if we make like the brits and keep records of matings and hatchings through out the year? i think it could be very helpful to see what species are in culture declining and out of stock as well as hatch rates and mating successes.

 

[dlemmings]

Get to compiling, I guess.

Excell care sheet crosslinked across species and including prefered foods etc.

 

[meaganelise9]

what about if we make like the brits and keep records of matings and hatchings through out the year? i think it could be very helpful to see what species are in culture declining and out of stock as well as hatch rates and mating successes.

This is a good idea and totally doable.

 

[gripen]

should i start this thread?

 

[meaganelise9]

Yeah, go for it! I think the general rule they use on the UK forum is that you only add to the thread if you have a hatch that you personally bred yourself.

 

[Chivalry]

I realize there is a huge variation, but when I heard B. borealis was 8-12 and they don't all hatch at once, whereas the T. sinensis I'd just hatched ended up being around 80 (and could've been hundreds)... I think even a guesstimate would be helpful info.

 

[gripen]

i have a thread in the works...

 

[gripen]

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