orchid L3 sexing help please :)

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orchid 1, female maybe?

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orchid 2 i'm certain is male:

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orchid 3, could it be male?

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orchid 4, pretty sure it's female?

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thanx for the help!

 
It looks female to me but I can't tell whether the there really is a notch there or if it's just darker coloration on the next segment. Feed it really well and it should be easier to tell.

 
It looks female to me but I can't tell whether the there really is a notch there or if it's just darker coloration on the next segment. Feed it really well and it should be easier to tell.
if u look closely u will see between the cerci what appear to be the 2 hair things on the subgenital plate, indicating male, the last segment has funky colors but have a look at the female in the pic in the previous post, she has this ball thing which is the top of the ovipositor which is lacking in the male

 
Ah, I see the difference there. I've never paid much attention to that area, as it's so darn tiny and I don't have any good way to magnify it. I can see the notch with the unaided eye on a well-fed female, so that's how I've been sexing mine. So far, it's held true as they're molting into their fourth instar and showing the green and brown bands on the thorax.

 
Ah, I see the difference there. I've never paid much attention to that area, as it's so darn tiny and I don't have any good way to magnify it. I can see the notch with the unaided eye on a well-fed female, so that's how I've been sexing mine. So far, it's held true as they're molting into their fourth instar and showing the green and brown bands on the thorax.
i notice males have more brown on the tip of the abdomen...

 
That's supposed to be one way of differentiating their sexes at later intars but I'm don't think it's necessarily always true on earlier ones. Some of my females had more brown then some of the males.

 
Never seen a male that wide or with such big leg plates, people airn't catching on to the leg plate thing, yet anyway. ;)

The v-notch is a great way if you can see it, but fat ab and leg plates helped me sex many a orchid correctly.

 

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