Ukmantis Newsletter

[aychen222]

I wasn't sure how many of you are also on Ukmantisforums but this newsletter is pretty awesome. I recommend at least checking out pages 25 and 26. I did not realize that S. carolina was being pushed out by T. sinensis, and I will definitely leave any ooths of S. carolina I find in the wild alone.

http://www.ukmantisforums.co.uk/newsletters/NLIssue%2011.pdf

 

[sally]

Thanks, aychen, That link was excellent! I don't check the UK forum as much as I should.

 

[Gill]

I wasn't sure how many of you are also on Ukmantisforums but this newsletter is pretty awesome. I recommend at least checking out pages 25 and 26. I did not realize that S. carolina was being pushed out by T. sinensis, and I will definitely leave any ooths of S. carolina I find in the wild alone.

http://www.ukmantisforums.co.uk/newsletters/NLIssue%2011.pdf

The problem is more with them being collected in numbers just to sell to the uK and other countries each year, maybe if you keep one you find locally you might actually increase their numbers. Just don't collect them to sell on ebay.

This is the sort of ad

Wild collected oothecas available:

Chinese: £4.99 with free 1st class postage (next day available for £5.99)

European: £8.99 with free 1st class postage (next day available for £5.99)

Carolina: £8.99 with free 1st class postage (next day available for £5.99)

Or one of each all for £18.99 with free 1st class postage (next day available for £5.99)

L1 Nymphs:

The reference was 1985 and was concerned that they were possibly being outcompeeted and I need to see if there is follow in evidence that they are before I do the full analysis in the next newsletter, but having loads of S. carolina ooths appearing on uk ebay each year is sickening.

 

[Rick]

I fully suspect they are being replaced due to a combination of factors. When I was a child I found S. carolina literally everywhere I looked. I am hard pressed to find them today. When I find an area full of Tenodera I rarely find any S. carolina. Of course like someone mentioned, collection for the pet trade is just one factor, being outcompeted is another. I brought the idea of doing a study on this up to my advisor but unfortunately he wasn't interested. I wonder though how much competition for resources actually exists beyond a certain instar as food requirements are likely different between the two as adults. Of course the larger species consume the smaller.

How does one subscribe to those newsletters? I have been impressed by the few I have read.

 

[aychen222]

That is actually the first newsletter that I received by email. I think that it is actually an annual newsletter, which explains why it is so good.

 

[Gill]

The newsletter goes out once every 3 to 4 months. Orin had an article in number 10 (March) and has given another that is in hand, probably for Octobers.

They are all freely available on line http://www.ukmantisforums.co.uk/misc.php?do=page&template=newsletters

and I mail them to all members who have subscribed to receive admin e mails.

 

[ScienceGirl]

Oooh! Mantid newsletters!!! Thanks so much for telling us about them and linking it! I will definitely have to get subscribed to it somehow...

 

[aNisip]

Gill I enjoy reading all the UKMF newsletters...especially enjoyed reading this one abt the meeting and how close you guys and gals are

 

[Gill]

Thanks for the nice comments.

 

[wuwu]

These newsletters are amazing! we should do something like this for mantidforum. i really like the survey they did of species kept in culture.

 

[Rick]

The newsletter goes out once every 3 to 4 months. Orin had an article in number 10 (March) and has given another that is in hand, probably for Octobers.

They are all freely available on line http://www.ukmantisforums.co.uk/misc.php?do=page&template=newsletters

and I mail them to all members who have subscribed to receive admin e mails.

Thanks Gill.

 

[Rick]

These newsletters are amazing! we should do something like this for mantidforum. i really like the survey they did of species kept in culture.

Me too. I'm assuming that reflects species in culture in the UK. It would be interesting to see the differences between there and here.

 

[wuwu]

the survey is for any of their members so it could be a mixture of both. not sure what the demographics for their site are. i'm assuming it's mostly European members.

 

[Gill]

There's some breakdown of countries on here from the 2012 survey (third year)

http://www.ukmantisforums.co.uk/content.php?r=106-Species-in-Culture

And I have pulled out a US top ten 2012 list somewhere but I can't get that now as I have to go, I'll put it up tomorrow

 

[lancaster1313]

I was pleasantly surprised when I got my first newsletter and happy when I get more. They are always nice.

Thanks Gill.

 

[MantidLord]

Hi, I'm currently doing a study on the impact of introduced, naturalized species of mantids on native species. Naturally, before I started my research I compiled a list of existing articles that deal with the subject. I came across the antenna blurb that Lawrence Hurd wrote (that was cited in the news letter). Unfortunately he merely suggested that s. carolina may be threatened by T. sinensis. No experiment was conducted and as such, this was a thought he inserted, so he didn't have any data to support it.

That's not to say that T. sinensis isn't pushing S. carolina out, a lot of the personal observations on this forum may point to that, but I just wanted to clarify that the pushing of S. carolina by T. sinensis hasn't been studied and certainly not proven (even though I believe it to be true).

 

[Rick]

Hi, I'm currently doing a study on the impact of introduced, naturalized species of mantids on native species. Naturally, before I started my research I compiled a list of existing articles that deal with the subject. I came across the antenna blurb that Lawrence Hurd wrote (that was cited in the news letter). Unfortunately he merely suggested that s. carolina may be threatened by T. sinensis. No experiment was conducted and as such, this was a thought he inserted, so he didn't have any data to support it.

That's not to say that T. sinensis isn't pushing S. carolina out, a lot of the personal observations on this forum may point to that, but I just wanted to clarify that the pushing of S. carolina by T. sinensis hasn't been studied and certainly not proven (even though I believe it to be true).

Is your study through your university? Or is it something you're doing on your own time? I haven't done a search of the literature on the subject but I wonder how much has been done on this.

 

[Gill]

I saw a paper Iris and Stagmomantis

http://europepmc.org/abstract/AGR/IND21808506/reload=0;jsessionid=VfsKBVaAHAqy0EXwMVTt.12

but I haven't read it yet

 

[MantidLord]

Hi Rick, it's through the university. I have grant money to pursue a research topic of my interest, and I've always been interested in the interactions between the natives and non-natives. Not much as been researched between the two. Gill posted the Iris and Stagmomantis paper. I actually went to one of the sites in that paper last year. The majority of the ecological papers you'll see about mantids co-existing with other mantids would be by Lawrence Hurd and his papers regarding T. sinensis, M. religiosa and T. angustipennis. But as you already know, all of those are introduced.