I know I asked a member a question about this but again tonight it occurred again. I have two virile males C.Humeralis which are trying to mate with my very fatty fat female. She is a doll believe it or not she has not been difficult to approach at all. And only once during this entire mating game has she fought back, that was tonight. i decided to try the smaller of the two males assuming he would not grab her so tightly he pierce her abdomen. Well, to no avail her jumped at her and grabbed her so hard that he wounded her, and yes this time she fought back. This has happened three times twice with the larger of the males and then tonight with the smaller one. I know there are no guarantees but is there anything I can do to lessen such an occurrence?
Wounding my female...
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how long was she an adult? maybe she is not ready, if she is really fat, she may be going to lay and ooth, that is if she has been adult for awhile, if she is she may not want them by her, other than that, try letting them out in the room together, this may help.
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Sounds to me like you've got a pair of dim-witted males. Normally, a male would clamp onto the thorax of the female. Why would they be latching onto her abdomen?
Probably cause when they first jump on the female, they are ususally backwards and from there turn around on her to get in place.
Hey Khori,
You saw Ogiga's paper cone for protecting the male from the female while mating, right?
In the same vein, maybe you could make something to protect your female from the males.... Little mittens (lol!!) or some kind of soft, easily removable tape to cover the sharp claws at the ends of the male's raptorial forearms; or a protective little apron for her?
Yes, I'm halfway kidding..... but only half way. It's food for thought. Maybe you could rig something that wouldn't hurt them or interfere with mating, that would also protect her. I really don't know what else to suggest. There doesn't seem like much you can do for this type of situation. But maybe someone else will have some less goofy suggestions!
OK... I just thought of something, and it might be just as wacky or ill advised. Maybe other members can comment on the pro's and con's of this idea....
I've used "New Skin" liquid bandage (made to paint on small human skin wounds to seal and protect... plus it has an antiseptic in it) before on a couple of very fat Rhombodera sp. females after the male punctured their abdomens during mating. One female died shortly afterwards. But the other one, whose injuries appeared much worse, lived on for at least another month... and laid a fertile ooth just a few days after the incident. So I'm thinking it was proved not to be harmful, in at least in one circumstance. And I painted her up pretty good.
What I'm thinking of though is.... what if you painted a coat or two of this stuff on their abdomens before mating. It would provide a protective shield maybe, like another layer of skin. I think you would just have to be careful not to apply over the breathing spiracles on the sides of the abdomen. Seriously. Any thoughts or other concerns with this idea?
Edit: Or what about small, soft and flexible regular bandages (like Band Aids)?!! You could remove them afterwards. Or maybe just cut out a small piece of the adhesive part of the bandage, and wrap the males claws with it beforehand? It would likely come off fairly easily with time... or misting with water to help it. Yes, I like that idea the best!!! :lol:
You saw Ogiga's paper cone for protecting the male from the female while mating, right?
In the same vein, maybe you could make something to protect your female from the males.... Little mittens (lol!!) or some kind of soft, easily removable tape to cover the sharp claws at the ends of the male's raptorial forearms; or a protective little apron for her?Yes, I'm halfway kidding..... but only half way. It's food for thought.
Maybe you could rig something that wouldn't hurt them or interfere with mating, that would also protect her. I really don't know what else to suggest. There doesn't seem like much you can do for this type of situation. But maybe someone else will have some less goofy suggestions!OK... I just thought of something, and it might be just as wacky or ill advised. Maybe other members can comment on the pro's and con's of this idea....
I've used "New Skin" liquid bandage (made to paint on small human skin wounds to seal and protect... plus it has an antiseptic in it) before on a couple of very fat Rhombodera sp. females after the male punctured their abdomens during mating. One female died shortly afterwards. But the other one, whose injuries appeared much worse, lived on for at least another month... and laid a fertile ooth just a few days after the incident. So I'm thinking it was proved not to be harmful, in at least in one circumstance. And I painted her up pretty good.
What I'm thinking of though is.... what if you painted a coat or two of this stuff on their abdomens before mating. It would provide a protective shield maybe, like another layer of skin. I think you would just have to be careful not to apply over the breathing spiracles on the sides of the abdomen. Seriously. Any thoughts or other concerns with this idea?
Edit: Or what about small, soft and flexible regular bandages (like Band Aids)?!!
You could remove them afterwards. Or maybe just cut out a small piece of the adhesive part of the bandage, and wrap the males claws with it beforehand? It would likely come off fairly easily with time... or misting with water to help it. Yes, I like that idea the best!!! :lol:
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Now that just might work and just last night after up on reading Ogiga's protective collar, I thought how could I apply a similar technique here only to protect her from their claws!!! Yes, I can visualize it and am going to work it out now!!! Thanks!!
It's not the first time in the forum that this has been heard of. It happens sometimes when they are just trying to "get it right"...decided not to go any further on this thought as it would belong in aqnother section of the forum...eh emmm. <_<
You'll have to tell us how you make out!! Are the females still doing OK now though... in spite of their injuries?
Are the females still doing OK now though... in spite of their injuries?
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"Dim witted?" And this from the guy whose males routinely try to procreate with his thumb? :lol:
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Hardy-Har-Har... just saying that Aussie males respect their females enough not to puncture them."Dim witted?" And this from the guy whose males routinely try to procreate with his thumb? :lol:
