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Dead Leaf Mantis
these are by far the best mantid ever..Yeah MJ, both are adult male with pretty wings
Hatching during shipment...grrrr
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Rob Byatt
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Great news Yen, but you need to cool those males down next week or the females will never be ready
Juergen
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Hello Yen,they have gone ahead of schedule!! I was expecting the first adult around Christmas but after just about 95 days (3 months and few days), i have my first adult idolomantis yay!
good work - that I call fast... How are the females?
Best regards,
Juergen
Nice Job Yen! Mine are down to two. A lot of money for them and I don't know if the last will make it. It is crippled on one side and I have to Hand feed it, I should be a bug nurse. I spend a lot of time hand feeding them :lol: . I just had my miomantis that was crippled die, she live a long time and had 3 ooths, the last one killed her though. Then I have a budwing that is total cripple, I feed her every day, when I went in this morning she is able to move her head and clean her two front claws, she looked at me when I said " morning baby" and asked her if she wanted her breakfast early" ha ha, she nodded yes so I cut a big fat superworm in half and gave it to her. It must of filled her up cause she did not take other half. But to get back to the idol, (I digress) ha ha... it is able to hang and scoot along things, and can hold it's fly once I get it to notice I am feeding it, it fights me all the way. But I usually get two b b flys down it and then put it up. so i dont knowif it will make it to next molt! But on the bright side, the last one is fine!
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I totatly missed this post Yen, sorry, and I just shipped some to the uk a week or so ago.Hi Trojon, the tent where my son is in cost about $75. It stands around 6 feet tall (not my 11-year-old son). Macro junkie asked the same question a week ago and i gave him the link as followhttp://www.livemonarch.com/store_enclosures.php
You can find all the dimensions there. I love their net cage, works wonderfully. I would have gone for the green house if it was available. Christopher is the owner of that site but i am not sure if he shipped aborad. Rebecca (Hibiscusmile) carries their product too, you ship abroad right Becky?
BY the way. took a shot at molting idolomantis, looks like it has great grips on thin branches eventhough they size seems too big for the tiny legs to hang on. But the one that moult on screen net only sees one last leg hanging on the net, dangerously close to losing all grips. Both moulted into subadult stage.
"Cooling down" or starving the males doesn't work properly in this species. If the conditions are not optimal, they can die in a blink of an eye.
Keep them as usual and feed them well, then they live about 3-4 months.
Keep them as usual and feed them well, then they live about 3-4 months.
Rob Byatt
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Come to think of it I didn't cool mine down once adult, but I did when they were subadult
Thanks all. I have another 4 molted into adult recently with 2 mismoult . Apparently both moulted out alright, but as it turns around to get it wing expand the male lost the grips and fall, so i have this male with all the legs and shield well formed but a mess up wing, what a bummer!! i have to send them to freezer but will take a few pics of them before doing so. On the positive note, there are 4 healthy looking adult male. All females are at subadult stage for at least 2-3 weeks now. I have a male bias gourp here so i still have plenty of male in subadult stage. But only have 10 females out of this group. I am hoping the subadult females traded from Germany (different bloodline) to mature soon, they have been in subadult stage for 1.5 month now!! :angry:
. Apparently both moulted out alright, but as it turns around to get it wing expand the male lost the grips and fall, so i have this male with all the legs and shield well formed but a mess up wing, what a bummer!! i have to send them to freezer but will take a few pics of them before doing so. On the positive note, there are 4 healthy looking adult male. All females are at subadult stage for at least 2-3 weeks now. I have a male bias gourp here so i still have plenty of male in subadult stage. But only have 10 females out of this group. I am hoping the subadult females traded from Germany (different bloodline) to mature soon, they have been in subadult stage for 1.5 month now!! :angry:
So if the wings are bad does it mean he's a gonner,cannot he live with bad wings? or do u just delete him so as not to use poor blood line? :blink: just wondering.
The second reason Hibiscusmile.... i will show a pic of the mismolted male when i have the chance. It is a shame cos everything else was alright except for the wing. I wouldn't throw it away if i only have one, but since i have some fine adult male and more subadult male left there're plenty of backup. Or i can get a male from you too Becky I remember sending a pre-subadult female to Reggie as he has 5 male from me (talk about odd!) and i have a male bias group too as mentioned earlier.
I remember sending a pre-subadult female to Reggie as he has 5 male from me (talk about odd!) and i have a male bias group too as mentioned earlier.
haH! You better hurry, I am having hard time keeping em alive.
Aww that's not goodhaH! You better hurry, I am having hard time keeping em alive.
lets hope the rest will survive.This is my first mismoult adult male
This is another mosmoult male
They are getting weak as well so it will be freezer time soon
macro junkie
Dead Leaf Mantis
hahahah look at its furry anteners..how cool is that..yen..is that dead?
MJ, all adult male of empuside species appear to have feathery antenna which is pretty cool.
No he is still kicking and screaming (well not really ) when picked, but don't think he can live for too long
No he is still kicking and screaming (well not really
) when picked, but don't think he can live for too long
Hopefully the movie clip works......
Hey i think it works
I was too late to take some subadult male out so you might be able to see few adult male in the cage too..... is too crowded i know need to do something about it this weekend.
Hey i think it works
I was too late to take some subadult male out so you might be able to see few adult male in the cage too..... is too crowded i know
need to do something about it this weekend.robo mantis
Well-known member
Let us know on adults
Wow!! Such a wonderfl species, Yen. But, if anyone can pull this off you can. they are in good hands. I know you'd only freezer em if you really had to. How much longer would he live form the date of the post. I know i'm a bit late!!! :mellow:
macro junkie
Dead Leaf Mantis
hahahhahah 1 was boxing the light bulb..im so glad i got 2 of these your set up is great..hahah all them flys..im wondering what u do when u have to open the tent..lol..do u wait till all the flys are eaten?
your set up is great..hahah all them flys..im wondering what u do when u have to open the tent..lol..do u wait till all the flys are eaten?
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Thanks Khori. I hope the male can survive for at least another 2-3 months, my females are showing signs of maturing with swelling budwing so hope to get some adult pairs soon.
Thanks MJ, i need some free roaming mantis to handle the escape flieshahahhahah 1 was boxing the light bulb..im so glad i got 2 of these
