What species is this?

[Mantisman.]

What species is this?

 

[hierodula]

looks like phyllovates

 

[Mantisman.]

what kind? it has almost no horn

 

[Rick]

looks like phyllovates

What I thought at first, but pretty sure it isn't.

 

[agent A]

Pseudovates or vates

 

[Paradoxica]

Pseudovates Peruviana?

http://mantidforum.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=16064&hl=peruviana#entry114211

 

[Mime454]

Knowing where you found it would be immensely helpful.

 

[Mantisman.]

Found in Mexico

 

[Mime454]

Pseudovates Peruviana?

http://mantidforum.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=16064&hl=peruviana#entry114211

I agree. Is that found in Mexico though?

 

[Gill]

Oops sorry can I have this post deleted.

 

[brancsikia339]

Phyllovates maya or chlorophaea, most likely maya. Could also be cingulata or cornuta. But it is definitely phyllovates

 

[Gill]

Phyllovates maya and chlorophea and cornuta have a horn, And Phyllovates has no leg lobes unlike this one

 

[gripen]

Phyllovates maya and chlorophea and cornuta have a horn, And Phyllovates has no leg lobes unlike this one

You found one that looked similar to this specimen if I remember correctly? What was the Id of that one?

 

[Gill]

That was a Phyllovates species. This one I think looks like Pseudovates as it has some small lobes on the legs. There are Pseudovates species in Mexico.

 

[brancsikia339]

That was a Phyllovates species. This one I think looks like Pseudovates as it has some small lobes on the legs. There are Pseudovates species in Mexico.

Are there pseudovates as skinny as a phyllovates? What species in particular do you think it is?

 

[Gill]

I have no idea but I think the leg lobes rule out species of Phyllovates, even the more slender species.

I don't know which species it could be. Pseudovates longiicollis, Ps. paraensis, Ps. tolteca, and Ps. townsendi are listed as Mexico so to find out a starting place would be the original descriptions of the type specimens most of which are available freely on line

 

[bobericc]

Pseudovates adult male

Mantis looks like it had nostrils too when I kept some funny mantis males croak pretty quick as adult though