That certainly would be a factor but Tenodera are not everywhere, if Mantis could persist here I think they would still be found in some areas without Tenodera. Perhaps they just haven't made it here yet. Part of the reason for the rampant spread of Tenodera is people buying the ooths and putting them out in their gardens. Are Mantis ooths as widely available for that purpose?
Why no Mantis religiosa in Southeastern United States?
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MantidLord
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But the presence of Tenodera doesn't seen to affect the coexistence with Mantis religiosa in places like Delaware, where both Tenodera sp and M religiosa coexist.
Domanating
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I live in foothill of a small mountain just 3-4 Km away from the sea. It's a very green region and the combination of the sea plus the mountain and weather turns it into an unusually humid area in comparison to the rest of the country. According to my barometer, typical humidity levels range between 60 to 80%. In hot the days of summer it can decrease a lot but for a very short period of time.
I've been catching this species here since ever. Yesterday I caught 3 new M. Religiosas in less than 5 minutes in a 2 square meter patch of green medium sized grass. Their age ranges around L4-L6
happy1892
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Tenodera sinensis very common here. My area might be more humid than your area in Portugal. Is it always wet there? It is here. I cannot find any Tenodera angustipennis..... 
They are quite patchy in their distribution. I lived here for twelve years before finding my first one by accident. I have a place down here that I find them if you're ever in the area.Tenodera sinensis very common here. My area might be more humid than your area in Portugal. Is it always wet there? It is here. I cannot find any Tenodera angustipennis.....
Domanating
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Mostly cloudy, even in hot summer days but not wet. I almost always fail to find Mantids after a rainy day or morning/evening dew.Tenodera sinensis very common here. My area might be more humid than your area in Portugal. Is it always wet there? It is here. I cannot find any Tenodera angustipennis.....
That might be your problem then.
happy1892
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They are patchy compared to South Korea. But it seems like less patchy than where you are. I often find one wandering around in lawn grass but still a lot of the time I cannot find them in patches of grass with a lot of insects.
I never noticed something like that. It rains every few days here.
That is because that is their native range as far as I know. So you can find them or you can't? You said earlier you couldn't, but just now said you often find one wandering in lawn grass. Talking about T. angustipennis.
happy1892
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Oh, I was talking about T. sinensis. I haven't found any T. angustipennis.
I find them in Eastern NC fairly often. I know a place where they are found in decent numbers.
happy1892
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Jrh3 have you seen euros in your area?
I've seen wild euros in Vermont before
ironically they are the state insect of CT even though they aren't even native or very common here <_<
ironically they are the state insect of CT even though they aren't even native or very common here <_<
happy1892
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http://bugguide.net/node/view/35194
Here it says Oligonicella live in Maryland or does it mean they are just south of Maryland? I think that is Interesting.
Here it says Oligonicella live in Maryland or does it mean they are just south of Maryland? I think that is Interesting.
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happy1892
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Temperature seems to vary at different parts of the world at same latitudes. Mountains are colder because of the altitude. Oceans can make temperature mild.
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110615211334AAPQ1fL'
This is fun to read.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_of_Seoul
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110615211334AAPQ1fL'
This is fun to read.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_of_Seoul
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PlayingMantis
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The only mantids I ever found here where I currently live are Chinese mantids. Back when I lived in New Mexico, there was much more variety.
devetaki9
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Got plenty of Euros here in New Hampshire, haven't found a lot of T Sinensis lately.. Except for the hundred or so currently residing in my bathroom *grin
SkittishMale
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I live in southern Ontario and Mantis religiosa is the only species that can be found in the wild here. Tenodera sinensis ooths are sold as biological control for gardens but I don't believe that this species has successfully naturalized here.
I always diapause the ooths of M. religiosa because in the wild of southern Ontario, they experience a cold winter.
I always diapause the ooths of M. religiosa because in the wild of southern Ontario, they experience a cold winter.
