How i pack my parcel

yen_saw · Feb 25, 2009

It is amazing how insects can survive during shipment that sometimes last more than a week long. Besides the favorable weather and duration of shipment, a proper way of packing could improve the chance of survival greatly. Over the last few years i have been asked on how to pack my parcel and i would say buy some mantis from me and you will see

... really i never got the chance to show it with picture. So following are the usual way i pack... step by step

For aggressive species, i usually pack them in individual deli cup.

Glue the lid with a piece of tissue

Then glue another piece of tissue to the bottom of the cup

Place in the mantis (Rhombodera sp) and close the lid

When they are ready, tape all the deli cups together

You could separate the deli cups into different bundles in order to fit into the shipping box

Poke a hole with pin if you want to but it is not necessary

To Be Continue.......

yen_saw · Feb 25, 2009

For species that are more tolerate towards each other i use insect container (16 oz).

Glue a tissue on the lid (better footing for mantis)

or use one of those fabrics lid

I use raffia inside the container to increase foting area and absorb impact during the rough shipment. A piece of tissue is also glules to the bottom of the container.

Put in the mantis (Arizoan unicorn) and close the lid

It is never a good practice shipping mantis that is going to molt but if it is unavoidable get a tall plastic vial lined with tissue (and the lid too) so incase of molting there is a chance of surviving.

Does it look familiar to you basist?

Keep everything intact and avoid loose containers if possible

To Be Continue...... getting bored yet?

yen_saw · Feb 25, 2009

Now come to final packing. Ship mantis in a solid box, not envelope or flimsy box.

Styrofoam box with heat pack is preferred for shipment going to coldest part of the country

Firstly put double side tape to the bottom of the box

Then the bubble sheets (now the sheet is stuck to the bottom as insulation)

Next is another double side tape to keep the containers fix at the bottom

More to come.......

yen_saw · Feb 25, 2009

To fill up the box i use polyester. But anything else (like paper) is alright as long as it fills up the void in the shipping box. That reduce the movement of the containers during shipment.

Add heat pack if needed (well of course with the plastic removed)

Fill up the top with more fillings

and another towel paper on top before sealing the box.

If you have "Fragile" stamp use it! I like to stamp it on the express shipping note cos there is where the mailer look it. i usually try to ship the express mail in the afternoon to reduce the time mantis staying in the box. Also, do not include cricket or roaches with the mantis inside the containers. Flies are alright. So with proper and not too complicated packing method, your mantis should do alright during shipment and hopefully stay stress free

Dinora · Feb 25, 2009

Nicely done, Yen!!!

But...

Yen... <_<

Couldn't I just come over to your house, pretty pls?

I think seeing your set up would be the highlight of my mantis-hobbyist-life!!! :lol:

*hugs*

Dinora

Rick · Feb 25, 2009

I like your write up Yen so I pinned it to the top of the forum page so it will stay on the main page. I basically use many of the same techniques.

bassist · Feb 25, 2009

Great work Yen and I had two that molted in shipping both to adult one made it the other didn't. (I honestly blame the postal guy he didn't even knock on my door just put the slip in the mailbox took about two hours to get the package from the post office <_< )

robelgado · Feb 25, 2009

Very cool.

Do you mind if I ask where you bought the deli cups?

yen_saw · Feb 25, 2009

Dinora said:
Nicely done, Yen!!! But...

Yen... <_<

Couldn't I just come over to your house, pretty pls?

I think seeing your set up would be the highlight of my mantis-hobbyist-life!!! :lol:

*hugs*

Dinora

Sure but i have to warn you my house is being renovated right now so plenty of mess around

Rick said:
I like your write up Yen so I pinned it to the top of the forum page so it will stay on the main page. I basically use many of the same techniques.

Thanks. lets hope more mantis can survive shipment now.

bassist said:
Great work Yen and I had two that molted in shipping both to adult one made it the other didn't. (I honestly blame the postal guy he didn't even knock on my door just put the slip in the mailbox took about two hours to get the package from the post office <_< )

Partly my fault too i could have waited

but glad the rest made it alright.

robelgado said:
Very cool.Do you mind if I ask where you bought the deli cups?

Costco

but you can find these on many places

http://www.trellisearth.com/index.php?main...004ebe5d5b713aa

http://www.webstaurantstore.com/dart-200pc...pk/999P200.html

http://www.bgpaper.com/store.asp?pid=17152&catid=19812

kamakiri · Feb 25, 2009

Excellent! Thanks for sharing Yen. Looks as good as the live shipments I've gotten from other professional seller/suppliers.

I like the suggestion to use poly batt. It would probably absorb shock better than most other fillers since mantises are so light.

robelgado · Feb 25, 2009

Thanks for the info yet, I might check out my local Sam's Club and Costco. See if they carry the little containers

. Or maybe I'll just steal some from the school cafeteria! hahaha

PhilinYuma · Feb 25, 2009

robelgado said:
Thanks for the info yet, I might check out my local Sam's Club and Costco. See if they carry the little containers . Or maybe I'll just steal some from the school cafeteria! hahaha

No need! It's really easy to get 50 pots, or more, if you want, Absolutely Free! Just order the appropriate number of nymphs from Yen Saw, and you'll get as many free pots as you want! The nymphs are pretty darn' good, too!

The_Asa · Mar 3, 2009

Nice, Yen, thanks for the pics to go along

yen_saw · Mar 6, 2009

PhilinYuma said:
No need! It's really easy to get 50 pots, or more, if you want, Absolutely Free! Just order the appropriate number of nymphs from Yen Saw, and you'll get as many free pots as you want! The nymphs are pretty darn' good, too!

:lol: :lol: :lol:

-Asa said:
Nice, Yen, thanks for the pics to go along

Hey no problem Asa B)

Borya · Mar 8, 2009

Yen, about your first post - it look like you place mantis into the deli-cup right after fixing pieces of cloth with glue. But some sorts of glue can be toxic until they dry up, especially in close compartment. Also, the upper piece of cloth may fall down because of weight of it's own and mantid's.

PhilinYuma · Mar 8, 2009

Borya said:
Yen, about your first post - it look like you place mantis into the deli-cup right after fixing pieces of cloth with glue. But some sorts of glue can be toxic until they dry up, especially in close compartment. Also, the upper piece of cloth may fall down because of weight of it's own and mantid's.

The setting of the glue that most of us use here (low temp hot gun glue) is mediated by temperature rather than curing, so, as far as I know, there is no release of toxic fumes, and the tissue paper is firmly held to the lid. More importantly, the pots arrive with healthy nymphs, often clinging to the tissue on the lid, and Всё хорошо́, что хорошо́ конча́ется. (Hope I got that right, Mija!). I don't know whether you have pots like this available, but if so, this shipping method is worth a try.

yen_saw · Mar 8, 2009

Borya, as Phil said, the glue stick used in the glue gun is what i call an inert material, both odorless and non-toxic. Unlike some other materials used in construction. When applied glue, make sure you cover all corner of the tissue so it stick well on the lid, but i really doubt the weight of a small mantis nymph is heavy enough to pull down the tissue.

Borya · Mar 9, 2009

I didn't see such glue in Russia as yet. I put a cone of paper napkin inside the cup, bend the edges outside down and fix it with the rubber band. After placing the mantis I cover the cup with the piece of mesh and fix it with another band (sorry, no photos available). This makes all the inner suface of compartment rough and easy to climb, that is especially useful for species who have no adhesive pads on their tarsi, like M.religiosa or Empusa.

beckyl92 · May 21, 2009

Where do you buy/get your boxes from? i had a look on the internet and they're really expensive!

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