PhilinYuma,
I'm confused. All I am saying is that a short enough photoperiod will induce a diapause and I don't think temperature could be the primary inducer since that would be so unreliable. The reason being how warm the temperatures can stay, in the southwest, well into October and even...
PhilinYuma,
The reason I suspect photoperiod as what induces diapause in Stagmomantis limbata is that, in the southwest anyway, using temperature would be unreliable. Oothecae laid early in the season would be exposed to warm temperatures for a very long time. Temperature may play a part, but I...
kamakiri,
As I said in my first post in this thread, clearly diapause in various mantid species is not well documented and, from what I can determine, not well studied.
There is a lengthy article discussing diapause in the Encyclopedia of Insects (Resh and Cardé, 2003) that is quite good.
In...
PhilinYuma,
Actually, the original question involved some new spiderlings in his garden and whether or not they should have hatched this time of year and if that meant that the Stagmomantis limbata ootheca in the same garden would hatch early too.
Based on what I can recall of my 27 years...
PhilinYuma,
My goal was technical accuracy which I think is important when discussing technical subjects. Yours appears to be payback....
You used a conjunction to connect the absence of parthenogenesis with delayed oothecae oviposition. Maybe you can see how one would incorrectly infer your...
Arkanis,
I read the article. The tests were conducted outdoors in Uvalde, TX, which is just outside San Antonio. It states that Stagmomantis limbata produced only one generation per year. The oothecae were laid starting in August and did not hatch until about March 1st.
Considering how hot it...
Arkanis,
Crickets follow the same hemimetabolous life cycle that mantids do: egg, nymph, adult. If I recall correctly, cricket eggs are very small and look like grains of rice. They hatch from the eggs and look like very small crickets.
Scott
PhilinYuma,
The way you used the word "parthenogenesis" suggested you thought it was something different than what it is. I can only go by what you write.
In regards to diapause versus hibernation, here you go:
http://www.diapausefoundation.org/index.php?link=education
Scott
PhilinYuma,
People tend to get rebarbative when you put words in their mouth (you have done so several times) and say they are wrong when they are not.
When I said that "Stagmomantis limbata in nature would have laid oothecae already", that is exactly what I meant. I don't know why you think I...
Arkanis,
I never came across Stagmomantis limbata in the Pasadena area some 30 years ago. But that does not mean they were not present. I was just one person and I did not go looking for S. limbata. They could have been quite common and I just never looked in the right place at the right time...
If the Green Lynx spider you found is Peucetia viridans, the eggs hatch about this time of year. The species overwinters as early instar spiderlings. So what you are seeing is normal for the species.
Scott
PhilinYuma,
You are anthropomorphizing my words. When I say "their goal", I am not saying it is their conscious thought to do this. It is their goal by instinct. What are the three primary instincts of most animals? Eat, survive, and reproduce....
Scott
PhilinYuma,
Let's back up here a second. Where did I say anything other than Stagmomantis limbata in nature would have laid oothecae already??? I didn't say that S. limbata was done laying oothecae and I didn't say that S. limbata females laid only one ootheca per season.
How am I wrong...
PhilinYuma,
There is no willfulness involved. Let me provide an example of what kakistos was talking about:
Let's say we have a mantid species, Gilliganus skipperus, on an isolated island in a temperate zone of the Pacific ocean. Let's also say that G. skipperus goes through an obligate...
kamakiri,
It's clear you are not interested in anything other than being right. That means that I am wasting my time. But I do strongly recommend that you get some actual education on the subject. The authors reference a significant number of articles to substantiate their assumptions. But I...
kamakiri,
The two gentlemen that wrote that article are not some jokers making assumptions. Look here:
Dr. Laurent Keller
http://www.unil.ch/dee/page7717.html
Dr. Denis Fournier
http://homepages.ulb.ac.be/~dfournie/Denis...er/Welcome.html
If you check up on their credentials, you would see...