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I gotta say, I just love being with the mantis... They are so loveable and fun. What I like most about the nymphs is the way they act when they are on top of something like the rim of their containers. They get up there and start that swaying from side to side while surveying the countryside around them. Then the second you put your bamboo skewer in front of them, their little arms go up to be picked up. And when you give them something to eat, they grab it like it is a hotdog on a stick or an icecream cone. And how many times have two of them grabbed the same feeder and fought over it! Like many have said here, it is fun to sit with them and watch tv or have them by the pc while you work and play. I love the way they bend down for a drink, always making you feel bad, because of the quickness of their drinking, like ya never give em one :lol: . Or how bout when u open the container and they do all they can to get out on your hand and it's all u can do to get them back in! And with some of them when u show them their food, you are lucky to keep all your finger! I just don't know of anything that reacts the way they do, and their nonchallant way of acting like you are not even there when they are eating, they couldn't care less what you are doing as long as you don't bother them. Then theres the one when u give em their food, thhey turn around and go elsewhere with it to eat, like it's a private matter. Yep, gotta say it, I love em!

 
I so understand where you're coming from, Rebecca! I just love the way they are and all of their little quirks too. Hubby doesn't understand... but he's glad they make me happy.

Asa, I'm a real cat-person also. ;)

 
I gotta say, I just love being with the mantis... They are so loveable and fun. What I like most about the nymphs is the way they act when they are on top of something like the rim of their containers. They get up there and start that swaying from side to side while surveying the countryside around them. Then the second you put your bamboo skewer in front of them, their little arms go up to be picked up. And when you give them something to eat, they grab it like it is a hotdog on a stick or an icecream cone. And how many times have two of them grabbed the same feeder and fought over it! Like many have said here, it is fun to sit with them and watch tv or have them by the pc while you work and play. I love the way they bend down for a drink, always making you feel bad, because of the quickness of their drinking, like ya never give em one :lol: . Or how bout when u open the container and they do all they can to get out on your hand and it's all u can do to get them back in! And with some of them when u show them their food, you are lucky to keep all your finger! I just don't know of anything that reacts the way they do, and their nonchallant way of acting like you are not even there when they are eating, they couldn't care less what you are doing as long as you don't bother them. Then theres the one when u give em their food, thhey turn around and go elsewhere with it to eat, like it's a private matter. Yep, gotta say it, I love em!
I love them too, for all the same reasons. I love watching their arms go up and down when you put something in front of them to climb on. They look so excited to climb up on your finger or skewer. They have such a personality for something so primitive. They really do remind me of cats as well.

 
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I've kept a lot of different kinds of bugs over the years and mantises are definitely in the top three. I also like phasmids, partially because a cage full of plants makes for an attractive enclosure. Plus, it's fun for visitors to play "find the phasmid". My other favorites are jumping spiders because of their personalities. I read an article one time about a jumping spider that was studied for intelligence. They showed that they display intelligence in the way that use strategy to stalk their prey. Pretty interesting reading, but not nearly as neat as watching it for yourself. Like jumping spiders, mantises clearly track their prey, always striking at that perfect moment when the prey comes within reach. And yet, just like infants, they have their quirky moments were they might decide to slap at their favorite food instead of eat it. And we just wonder why? Yeah, kinda like cats but without the litter box, fur or couch-scratching. I'm an advocate of terrarium pets, though I have some great friends that let their invertebrates have free roam of the house.

Great post, Rebecca!

 
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:D Oh Poopie! I forgot about how cat like they are. The way tey clean theirselves, always amazes me. And for a boo boo on a leg, it gets stuck right away in the mouth. The only thing I haven't see is where a forum member said that his was cleaning its butt :lol: . ha ha, my big old german shepard (Abby) always makes me clean her butt! She likes it for some reason :lol: . Dear God, when will I be thru cleaning butts? (sorry I digress)!
 
I really don't get this "treating insects as pets" thing. Insects are insects, and mantises are cold blooded killers to boot. They need a proper environment, food and of course, photoperiod, but aside from that, I don't see what all the fuss is about.

I do have something of a soft spot for Tom (Thai for, you guessed it, "mantis") but that is because she was the first mantis I kept, and even if her ooths are infertile, as I am beginning to suspect, she gave me a very nice threat display with open wings, the other day (a rather large cricket snuck up on her) so that was kinda cute.

I also don't believe in surrounding myself with them when I am working. I have a few in the kitchen, because it is the warmest room in the house, and I do occasionally glance at them while I am cooking or making tea. The ones on top of my main computer on my right are there for warmth, also, and I only glance at them every few minutes or so. I have put a second machine on my left, purely for backup reasons, and I have a few pots on there, but it has nothing to do with not wanting anyone to feel left out. That would put me on the slippery slope to anthropomorphism.

I also don't get this "the babies are so cute" thing. A friend, who doesn't understand my scientific detachment, claims that I play the "upside down game" and the "finger game" with my five newly hatched A. formosa, but that is purely subjective on her part. All five like to hang out on the pot lid and the mels that they are supposed to be eating hang out at the bottom, so occasionally, I turn the pot upside down so that the mels fall on top of the babies, which causes great excitement until they start climbing to the top of the pot again, whereupon I repeat the process. But I only do that three or four times a day. When I need to clean out their pot, I transfer them to a holding area by letting them walk onto my right index finger, transferring them to the new one, and gently brushing them off with my left index. Usually, though, they will jump onto that finger and swap back and forth as I try to brush them off, until they collapse into the pot giggling hysterically. I don't know that I would call that "cute" though. Well, kinda.

But enough of this. I have an adult female peacock, who was obviously spoiled by her former owner, and I have a deal by which, if she eats all her crickets, I give her a big roach every few days. Today's the day. She is also bargaining for larger quarters, half a 10gal tank, but she is going to have to wait until I have time. Tomorrow, maybe?

 
I really don't get this "treating insects as pets" thing. Insects are insects, and mantises are cold blooded killers to boot. They need a proper environment, food and of course, photoperiod, but aside from that, I don't see what all the fuss is about. I do have something of a soft spot for Tom (Thai for, you guessed it, "mantis") but that is because she was the first mantis I kept, and even if her ooths are infertile, as I am beginning to suspect, she gave me a very nice threat display with open wings, the other day (a rather large cricket snuck up on her) so that was kinda cute.

I also don't believe in surrounding myself with them when I am working. I have a few in the kitchen, because it is the warmest room in the house, and I do occasionally glance at them while I am cooking or making tea. The ones on top of my main computer on my right are there for warmth, also, and I only glance at them every few minutes or so. I have put a second machine on my left, purely for backup reasons, and I have a few pots on there, but it has nothing to do with not wanting anyone to feel left out. That would put me on the slippery slope to anthropomorphism.

I also don't get this "the babies are so cute" thing. A friend, who doesn't understand my scientific detachment, claims that I play the "upside down game" and the "finger game" with my five newly hatched A. formosa, but that is purely subjective on her part. All five like to hang out on the pot lid and the mels that they are supposed to be eating hang out at the bottom, so occasionally, I turn the pot upside down so that the mels fall on top of the babies, which causes great excitement until they start climbing to the top of the pot again, whereupon I repeat the process. But I only do that three or four times a day. When I need to clean out their pot, I transfer them to a holding area by letting them walk onto my right index finger, transferring them to the new one, and gently brushing them off with my left index. Usually, though, they will jump onto that finger and swap back and forth as I try to brush them off, until they collapse into the pot giggling hysterically. I don't know that I would call that "cute" though. Well, kinda.

But enough of this. I have an adult female peacock, who was obviously spoiled by her former owner, and I have a deal by which, if she eats all her crickets, I give her a big roach every few days. Today's the day. She is also bargaining for larger quarters, half a 10gal tank, but she is going to have to wait until I have time. Tomorrow, maybe?
What's not to understand? People here really love mantids, or we would probably not be keeping them in the first place. I am like you and I do not name them or take them out frequently, however, I do understand how people could view them as cute. That is a personal opinion. Some people like dogs, some like cats, some like mantids, and some like all of the above. I also understand how people treat them as a pet. To a lot of people, namely the ones who name their mantids, their mantids are their pets. Some say, "What's the point, they're 'just insects' and 'they don't live very long,' but they don't really care about these two points and love them as much as they would any other pet. Just because they're insects does not mean we need to treat them like we're scientists. I mean, what is the point of keeping a living organism if you're not going to interact with it in some way or profit from it? I, personally, am more part of the "look and don't touch crowd" but I understand the people that do treat their mantids like a spoiled cat or dog. And just because I don't take them out often, does not mean I don't frequently observe them. I love watching them, as they have such graceful movements, and I especially love watching them eat. It's amazing how fast they can devour another insect and leave little to nothing left.

 
I agree with you Shorty. Although, I am one of the ones who treat them like a cat or a dog. Believe me I'm a cat and dog person also, but I try to have the same respect for all living creatures, thats why I have some ethical issues with the feeders. I treat them as well as possible, partly because it better for the mantids, part because it makes me feel better about their fate. I myself have been a vegetarian for 16 years. But it's nature, it's the mantid's nature. But I'm certainly not here to question any one else's motivation for their interest in this hobby. I think it's great that we can all come here and share our opinions, even if there not the same. We all like these "little monsters".

 
I agree with you Shorty. Although, I am one of the ones who treat them like a cat or a dog. Believe me I'm a cat and dog person also, but I try to have the same respect for all living creatures, thats why I have some ethical issues with the feeders. I treat them as well as possible, partly because it better for the mantids, part because it makes me feel better about their fate. I myself have been a vegetarian for 16 years. But it's nature, it's the mantid's nature. But I'm certainly not here to question any one else's motivation for their interest in this hobby. I think it's great that we can all come here and share our opinions, even if there not the same. We all like these "little monsters".
I agree with you on most issues here. I have tremendous respect for nature and I realize that us humans are as much a part of nature as any living organism on the planet. Unfortunately, self-preserving institutions that have ruled us for hundreds if not thousands of years, have led us away from this one truth about the world. The most important thing has been taken from us, and that is, our harmony with nature. People do not understand that we are all one. I am you, you are me, and we are all part of everything. It's a beautiful idea that the universe is but one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively through countless individual consciousnesses. And as a population, we must realize that if we do not create an equilibrium with nature, and institute intelligent management of the Earths resources, we will perish. Like Carl Sagan said, "Everyone knows that an organism at war with itself, is doomed." So, I am getting a bit off track here, but I share with you your respect for nature, however, it would never lead me to a vegetarian life. :) I also would never question someone's motives for their interest in this hobby. I, too, agree that it's great that we can share our opinions, ideas, philosophies here as well as help those in need and get help when we need it. Wonderful community, can't say it enough.

 
Mantids are my favorite insects... :)

there are 4 things Why they are interesting is...

1.The way they catch there prey, when my I put a dragonfly in front of the mantis inside my mantis house,it quickly observe it and when the prey make 1 small move such as moving its legs or flapping its wings, my mantis quickly catch the prey with great speed...

2.The way they eat there prey is also interesting, mantis always start with the legs first, maybe most mantids start with the head or the neck but my tenodera eats the legs like spaghetti then the body and then the rest of it...

3.When they are resting, they fold its raptorial legs like in a Prayer, here is a pic of my tenodera Resting or sleeping or Praying...

4.The way they express them self or in a defensive position...

 
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i CAN'T SEE the pics! I also love the way the baby orchids sit, like a little frog, all stretched out or like a kid sitting on its tummy watching the **** tube :lol:

 
I got em to kill and eat spidermites, plain and simple, but they do seem to be personable, so I've come to get a bit attached to them. I think it's funny to see them want to be picked up, or are they really calling me out and challenging me to a fight... I don't know yet, as I don't speak mantisese, yet. I could at least look at my fish's eyes and tell their moods, but I can't see the mantis' eyes well enough yet, so maybe in the future I can get cue's, other than body language.

I like to watch them pounce. Makes me smile. Ninja mantis, hie yah ! New anime cartoon, or would it be an old one...?

The do resemble the same head structure as the egyptian type cats :)

 

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