"Congo Green" Oootheca received today

[Gill]

Hmmm, a bit tricky with the ooth pics at the moment. These are 48 hrs old but I have only moved out half so far. Tomorrow I will move the rest out and get a pic of the recently hatched one and some others.

P.S Sorry UK only third instar for sale.

I think Joehos looks similar and Patricks could be, need some other angles to be more sure and Green Oasis isn't, that looks more like my Polyspilota ooths

 

[Frey]

:lol:

Guys, no one here dont have "Congo ... " mantis

Lol .

Congo Mantis is a Alalomantis muta or coxalis if I good remember but no one of ooths doesnt look like Alalomantis...

 

[Gill]

The mantis I have was from the Congo, tentatively identified and know as Alaomantis coxalis when I got it. Renamed Sphrodomantis cf aurea and given an IGM nummer. Here is a paste from the IGM nummer list 'IGM 164 Sphodromantis cf. aurea - formerly "Alalomantis coxalis" Kongo ? ? 19. Oktober 2009 in Zucht'

I am very certain of the origin of my stock. It is Green and from the Congo hence its common name. I also know at least 16 people keep this stock.

 

[patrickfraser]

The mantis I have was from the Congo, tentatively identified and know as Alaomantis coxalis when I got it. Renamed Sphrodomantis cf aurea and given an IGM nummer. Here is a paste from the IGM nummer list 'IGM 164 Sphodromantis cf. aurea - formerly "Alalomantis coxalis" Kongo ? ? 19. Oktober 2009 in Zucht'

I am very certain of the origin of my stock. It is Green and from the Congo hence its common name. I also know at least 16 people keep this stock.

Maybe 17 people, now

 

[yen_saw]

Thanks for the pics Gill. The ootheca for Sphodromantis cf surea reminds me of Rhomboderella sp. (endemic to Congo) Someone told me about the shape of ootheca being similar looking to Rhombodera sp. found in Africa.

 

[Frey]

Thanks for the pics Gill. The ootheca for Sphodromantis cf surea reminds me of Rhomboderella sp. (endemic to Congo) Someone told me about the shape of ootheca being similar looking to Rhombodera sp. found in Africa.

For me too .

I have right now 2 ooths of Rhombodera, they look diffrent but they laid by the 1 female of shield mantis

 

[Gill]

There has been a lot of confusion with this stock so it is handy to have the IGM number. It was first also called Rhomboderella and how correct the current ID is I am unsure.

I hope Graham won't mind if I post this here

Confusion HI All,

First sorry this confusion is mostly my fault , but it is down to common name problems.

The original species we brought in from the Congo remained as unknown Congo mantis until it was ID by Martin Stiewe (now this guy is a real top notch taxonomist)

http://mantodea.speciesfile.org/HomePage.aspx

and he keyed it out and checked out the original type specimen at the NHM as Alalomantis coxalis, however there was some dispute over the ID with Alan Stubbs (another top notch chap who knows his taxonomy) and he thought they were in fact Sphodromantis aurea, Gurd had some sent to Christian in Germany who gave them the IGM number and also came up with Sphodromantis aurea, so with a two to one ID we have to go with Sphodromantis aurea.

So for now it's Sphodromantis aurea for the Congo Green

Hope that helps.

Regards to all

Graham

 

[Frey]

All clear

 

[patrickfraser]

I am glad this has has been settled. Thank you all for the input. Now I just wait to see if anything hatches.

 

[hibiscusmile]

Good post here!

 

[yen_saw]

Thanks Gill for clearing this up, much appreciated!

 

[babyfroggy]

Carey your "Congo" ooth looks just like the one I have incubating right now. I got it overseas though. I'm trying to attach a pic, let's see if this works. She came from another congo ooth I bought from the same breeder last year. It was one of my first attempts at this hobby I think in the picture she was sub adult.

 

[babyfroggy]

here's another of her, she was so pretty that's why I had to get another ooth. I'm sure I'll do better this time around

 

[hibiscusmile]

" here's another of her, she was so pretty that's why I had to get another ooth. I'm sure I'll do better this time around "

Oh Sure! you say she is pretty now, but what about when she is old and wrinkled and can't stand up straight? :huh: Oh , sorry, that resembled me :lol:

 

[Krissim Klaw]

I hope you all ended up with the right species because I want one of these lovely bugs so all you breeders need to start pumping them out and establish a good line. *Nudge, winks at, Rebecca* When is mantisplace planning to get some of these lovely ladies, who age with the utmost of grace?

 

[babyfroggy]

@Rebecca- lol I was told there are different types of congo greens, some are short and stocky, the one's I had were huge. I hope that's the same kind I got this time because the ooth looks a little different.

 

[Gill]

The IGM 164 Congo Green (Sphodromantis cf aurea) has a brown colour form as well as the stunning blue/green (and some in between green and brown). Here is a pic of two females, the green one is in a partial threat pose.

 

[patrickfraser]

My ooth still has not hatched. I am expecting it to pop any day now. I wonder what it'll be? I will post pics for id when (and if...) it hatches. I've got fruit fly cultures all up and ready, as I hear these things are heavy eaters. I'll put the humidifier on high tonight. It has been a nice warm 2 days here in So. Cal, reaching the 90's today. I love CA! I almost stopped at the beach to fly a kite. Maybe tomorrow....

 

[GreenOasis]

My ooth still has not hatched. I am expecting it to pop any day now. I wonder what it'll be? I will post pics for id when (and if...) it hatches. I've got fruit fly cultures all up and ready, as I hear these things are heavy eaters. I'll put the humidifier on high tonight. It has been a nice warm 2 days here in So. Cal, reaching the 90's today. I love CA! I almost stopped at the beach to fly a kite. Maybe tomorrow....

YOU STINK! (God, I miss California!) <_<

 

[patrickfraser]

YOU STINK! (God, I miss California!) <_<

...And California misses you. What roads led you to OK from CA? I don't think I'd ever leave.

2nd gen. California native all the way

I think there's something in the water.