Decimiana bolivari IGM No 162

[ismart]

There are three different species in culture here in the US. Decimiana bolivari, Acanthops sp. And Acanthops parafalcata. All three of these species look very similar in appearance. Rebecaa, do you know who you got them from. Posting a picture may prove to be futile!

 

[hibiscusmile]

yes took pic today, to tired to post though, tomorrow,,,, from poland or germany, I have to look.

 

[Christian]

Hi.

Acanthops sp. and "A. parafalcata" are the same species. Despite of my apply to the respective persons not to use parafalcata as a specific name, the species with the IGM number 151 is continuously sold under that name.

Greets,

C.

 

[ismart]

Hi.

Acanthops sp. and "A. parafalcata" are the same species. Despite of my apply to the respective persons not to use parafalcata as a specific name, the species with the IGM number 151 is continuously sold under that name.

Greets,

C.

Thanks for clearing that up! And here i thought there were 3 different species here. I would have felt pretty stupid buying A. parafalcata when i already have Acanthops sp. :lol: What i don't understand is why people choose to change names around, when the species has yet to be properly identified? For the record. I own both Decimiana bolivari IGM number 162, and Acanthops sp. IGM number 151. So for all of those that i sold D. bolivari to. If i had not mentioned the IGM number? That is what they are. I don't want anyone to get confused.

 

[Christian]

That species was preliminarily IDed as parafalcata, but there are still some inconsistencies when compared to the original description, so that name shouldn't be used until this is cleared up. Personally, after seeing a lot of specimens and doing several genitalia preparations, I don't think this is parafalcata. Even taxonomists sometimes don't agree.

 

[ismart]

Well, if no agreement, or proper ID can be made at this time. Then Acanthops sp. IGM number 151 sounds good to me! :lol:

Christian, please keep us informed if any new developments/agreements are made?

 

[Christian]

Well, I am little bit off the (western) world for the next years, but if I will get news on this I will post them.

 

[ismart]

Well, I am little bit off the (western) world for the next years, but if I will get news on this I will post them.

Thanks!

 

[hibiscusmile]

Well here are mine, what are they?

Can't stand the suspence, going to bed!

 

[hibiscusmile]

I gotta tell you, really doesn't matter what they are, I love em! quickly becoming my fav and all along they were really spectacular looking and I could hardly wait to see the finished product :tt2:

 

[hibiscusmile]

Oh thanks! they look like Yens, only I like his color of his female,,,,, lets see where did I put that pay slip....yaw, yaw... Germany

 

[tier]

Hi

These are the Acanthops sp., not the Decimiana bolivari.

regards

 

[ismart]

Hi

These are the Acanthops sp., not the Decimiana bolivari.

regards

+1!

 

[yen_saw]

+2

Left IGM 162, right IGM 151

Edit: Both adult male

 

[naeff002]

are they the same ***

 

[ismart]

are they the same ***

Yes!

 

[hibiscusmile]

Well good to know, I love the looks of them anyways! especialy the girls, with their little wings running up the upright butts! gotta love em! thanks guys!