Empusa Pennata

[Mime454]

I want to get some of these, but I'm a bit worried about killing them. Apparently they need a diapause at the subadult stage. Does anyone know what that entails? Any other tips to keeping them?

 

[glock34girl]

http://www.arachnoboards.com/ab/archive/index.php/t-52286.html

not sure about credibility though. Also, i first saw this species in Orin's book but off the top of my head I don't remember if there was a write up on them or if it was just a photo. Maybe ask the person you are buying from about the diapause?

GG

 

[gripen]

Do you know the IGM?

Some need it some don't. I you do diapause them do it at sub for about 2 months.

I would not recommend these for casual keepers because they are so rare now and they are exceedingly hard to breed.

 

[jrh3]

The ooth needs diapause or the mantid? if its the mantid then thats weird.

 

[gripen]

The ooth needs diapause or the mantid? if its the mantid then thats weird.

The sub adult mantid. They need to be kept at about 50 degrees for 2 months to diapause.

 

[glock34girl]

How odd. How does one do that?

 

[gripen]

How odd. How does one do that?

Put them in a cool spot in your house. As I said not for the casual keeper lol.

 

[Mime454]

The ooth needs diapause or the mantid? if its the mantid then thats weird.

The actual mantis. It's bizarre.

 

[Mime454]

Do you know the IGM?

Some need it some don't. I you do diapause them do it at sub for about 2 months.

I would not recommend these for casual keepers because they are so rare now and they are exceedingly hard to breed.

They're wild caught according to what I know.

 

[gripen]

From where? That makes a big difference.

 

[glock34girl]

Lol gripen! I know cool spot but I read it needed 50 degrees lol I j ow my house doesn't hit that unless its mid winter. Isn't empusa presiota (sp?) from Spain and Portugal with some coming from Italy. I read that somewhere although I can't remember where. Maybe wiki and that's about as reliable as... Who knows lol

 

[gripen]

I need to verify this but I think they are the south-western counterpart to fasciata. The ones that need diapause come from the canaries.

 

[glock34girl]

The fasciata are so pretty!

 

[Mime454]

I found this helpful. Apparently they need to have shortened daylight too. http://usamantis.com/Efasciata_log.html

They lay ooths within the first week and they hatch in 2 weeks. Bizarre species for sure!

 

[glock34girl]

Way over my head lol

 

[Mime454]

Way over my head lol

Aren't you getting some? I figured that you were given the research you did.

 

[glock34girl]

Lol if they go into diapause.... Where the heck am I going to find a place that is a consistent 50 degrees when it's an average of 103 here in the summer lol

 

[mantid_mike]

Lol if they go into diapause.... Where the heck am I going to find a place that is a consistent 50 degrees when it's an average of 103 here in the summer lol

The only place I can think of is the fridge lol

 

[glock34girl]

The only place I can think of is the fridge lol

That's what I was thinking! Lol but it's kinda dark in there AND I think average fridge temp is like 38-40.