Fisherman_Brazil
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I am told this is Hemiempusa spp.. Am I a fool again?
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I am told this is Hemiempusa spp.. Am I a fool again?
Fisherman_Brazil
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Morpheus uk
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Sorry to say that nymph doesnt look at all ike an Empusid to me 
Could it be bug wings?
Could it be bug wings?
both the shape of the ootheca and the hatchling resemble a Parasphendale species (http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2110/2530720401_173db01be8.jpg). It's definitely not a Pseudocreobotra, their ootheca and hatchlings look very disimilar to these.
Morpheus uk
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Thats what i was going to say but i didnt know how to spell Parasphendale :lol:
lectricblueyes
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Hmm... how did you meet the African Dealer? Did he send you an email like this:
Dear Sir/Mam,
Please permit me to make your acquaintance in so informal a manner. This is necessitated by my urgent need to reach a dependable and trust wordy foreign partner. This request may seem strange and unsolicited but I will crave your indulgence and pray that you view it seriously. The great King Mantida of Nigeria, Africa has died and he has left behind a great wealth of Ootheca. We are in need of your help for transferring these Ootheca out of the country before the government finds them!
Sir. Doctor Patrick Othecia
Financial Assistant to King Mantida
Dear Sir/Mam,
Please permit me to make your acquaintance in so informal a manner. This is necessitated by my urgent need to reach a dependable and trust wordy foreign partner. This request may seem strange and unsolicited but I will crave your indulgence and pray that you view it seriously. The great King Mantida of Nigeria, Africa has died and he has left behind a great wealth of Ootheca. We are in need of your help for transferring these Ootheca out of the country before the government finds them!
Sir. Doctor Patrick Othecia
Financial Assistant to King Mantida
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Ha ha :lol:Hmm... how did you meet the African Dealer? Did he send you an email like this
Please permit me to make your acquaintance in so informal a manner. This is necessitated by my urgent need to reach a dependable and trust wordy foreign partner. This request may seem strange and unsolicited but I will crave your indulgence and pray that you view it seriously. The great King Mantida of Nigeria, Africa has died and he has left behind a great wealth of Ootheca. We are in need of your help for transferring these Ootheca out of the country before the government finds them!
Sir. Doctor Patrick Othecia
Financial Assistant to King Mantida
Quick (sorry Luke) someone give Lectric a cigar, Rick actually laughed... hahaha sorry Rick!
They look a lot like the budwing, but even more ooths look like the Centrallis ooths I got, baby looks to dark though, where is Christian?
Fisherman_Brazil
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The story goes like this,
1. There were a couple of Afican dealers that I have contact with previously, but never really make any money transfer, because of my insisting shipping first then the money. No deal of curse at first beginning.
2. Then a German ffriend give me a contact information claiming to be a white woman, and trustworthy. Due to my trust to this German gentleman, so I send the money of 600+ US dollars to the African dealer without hesitation. Then, the parcel did come to me, but soon proven to be all empty ooth.
3. I asked for explaination and possible replacement. After painful negociation, the dealer agree to replace since I have documented the received ooth well enough with pictures. The dealer ask my sending 100 for the shiping cost, which I did. Not only that, I actually sent 150, 50 extra as "thank you gift".
4. Two weeks late as the African dealer's promise to receive the replacement ooth. Now, there are some ooth that I really need, namely the Idolomantis, and some other ooth that you have just seen labeled " Hemiempusa spp.".
5. Don't really care these other species as my target is the Idolo. Right after takng picture and examining the ooth, I find out most of them either have vent or hole indicating the possible hatched out or parasited, just like the first batch. Immediately cut open one of each, not surpise, an empty ooth again.
6. I report to the dealer, and ask again for an explaination. But the reply is asking another money payment of US$528.
I really don't know what can I say!
1. There were a couple of Afican dealers that I have contact with previously, but never really make any money transfer, because of my insisting shipping first then the money. No deal of curse at first beginning.
2. Then a German ffriend give me a contact information claiming to be a white woman, and trustworthy. Due to my trust to this German gentleman, so I send the money of 600+ US dollars to the African dealer without hesitation. Then, the parcel did come to me, but soon proven to be all empty ooth.
3. I asked for explaination and possible replacement. After painful negociation, the dealer agree to replace since I have documented the received ooth well enough with pictures. The dealer ask my sending 100 for the shiping cost, which I did. Not only that, I actually sent 150, 50 extra as "thank you gift".
4. Two weeks late as the African dealer's promise to receive the replacement ooth. Now, there are some ooth that I really need, namely the Idolomantis, and some other ooth that you have just seen labeled " Hemiempusa spp.".
5. Don't really care these other species as my target is the Idolo. Right after takng picture and examining the ooth, I find out most of them either have vent or hole indicating the possible hatched out or parasited, just like the first batch. Immediately cut open one of each, not surpise, an empty ooth again.
6. I report to the dealer, and ask again for an explaination. But the reply is asking another money payment of US$528.
I really don't know what can I say!
Oh my, Luke... That does not sound good at all, and you have sent so much money already! I have no help to give you, but I hope you do not send more money. I hope not, but I fear someone is trying to swindle you. I feel very angry, and bad for you if that is the case. Best of luck to you in getting the situation sorted.
That does not sound good at all, and you have sent so much money already! I have no help to give you, but I hope you do not send more money. I hope not, but I fear someone is trying to swindle you. I feel very angry, and bad for you if that is the case. Best of luck to you in getting the situation sorted.Rob Byatt
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They all resemble Parasphendale ootheca and so does the nymph (black with a thickened antennae base).
I would be very surprised if the person even knew what Hemiempusa looks like :angry:
I doubt you'll see the money again, sorry.
I would be very surprised if the person even knew what Hemiempusa looks like :angry:
I doubt you'll see the money again, sorry.
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:angry: I wish I knew who also sent me ooths from Africa, mine came in the same condition, only I got my money back, and only because it was from a forum member that I always deal with. When I got the ooths, and discovered they looked the same as u describe Luke, I immeaditly contacted him and he sent it back, a few ooths were even stapled to a container and the staples were already rusted, which ment they were in storage for awhile, I kept them for some reason until just last week and then I trashed them. ps Luke, this is how they keep you sending them money, by promising to make it right, demand your goods and refunds and u will never hear from them again. Because they have nothing to give you.
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revmdn
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That's a lot of money. I say deal with people you know are reliable, or stick to local species. I t seems like you have some great ones.
Yeah Luke thats Parasphendale sp.
Same as my ooths and nimph looks the same also.
I was scammed also but only for 150 euro with Tanzanian dealer send him money and after 2 emails no ansewer at all.
Allmost 2 months now
His name is:
Oresh sairo
Box 77941
dar es salaam
Tanzania
+255 787 624 028
So please members do not do business with him if you get in contact with him.
(if you do ask about my money or ooths :lol: )
Same as my ooths and nimph looks the same also.
I was scammed also but only for 150 euro with Tanzanian dealer send him money and after 2 emails no ansewer at all.
Allmost 2 months now
His name is:
Oresh sairo
Box 77941
dar es salaam
Tanzania
+255 787 624 028
So please members do not do business with him if you get in contact with him.
(if you do ask about my money or ooths :lol: )
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