Hymenopus coronatus orchid mate on back but no sucess in contact

[davestreasurechest]

please does anyone have any advice ,..wednesday 9/9/09 put female in males cage ,male followed her and jumped on her back did the drumming and made several failed attempts to make contact ,..any advice? does he need viagra ? it is now late thursday and im sure hes getting tired

 

[hibiscusmile]

You do not have to worry to much about this unless it is the only male and he is in danger from her or on his last pink legs! The orchid male will a lot of times, sit and look at the female for hours or even days before mounting her, then when he does, he may mate right away or he may take a few days to get busy, this is typical of them, they will also sit there and tap tap tap on their backs while sitting there. If you think they are not ready yet, then remove him and wait another day, other wise leave them alone and they will eventually mate.

 

[davestreasurechest]

thankyou Rebecca for your quick reply,... my first female died shortly after adult molt ,now this is my last female she is doing great been adult fro almost 3 weeks , the boy is getting old hes been adult for about 4 months, he obviouslly likes her and she doesnt seem to care,..

what do you mean last pink legs?

and yes these are the last 2 male and female i bought from you in march/april

I am Dave Magill (davestreasurechest)

he has tried to get down to her butt but couldnt ,should i try to help him out ?

You do not have to worry to much about this unless it is the only male and he is in danger from her or on his last pink legs! The orchid male will a lot of times, sit and look at the female for hours or even days before mounting her, then when he does, he may mate right away or he may take a few days to get busy, this is typical of them, they will also sit there and tap tap tap on their backs while sitting there. If you think they are not ready yet, then remove him and wait another day, other wise leave them alone and they will eventually mate.

 

[hibiscusmile]

I use my bamboo sticks to move them around, I like to get them in line for what I am up to, by poking her a bit to get her to move in line of where I need her and then putting the male on her back by her Butt! haha, your words not mine and then I just gently let the stick roll a bit till he realizes he can get off and wallaaa he is there, but if that is what is happening, if it were me, and yes the boys do mature before the girls, but they always live a long time, I would take him out and put him in another room for a couple days, sometimes they get numb from being around the girls and take no interest in them then, this is a big problem with males kept to close to the girls, at least I have found it to be so. Also they say to wait 5 to 6 weeks for the girl to mature before mating, some dont wait and it works, I wait, some do it within a week like I think Emille did and it works for them. It is all up to the breeder when to put together.

It was a joke, little pink legs, meaning like " on his last legs" before he passed!

 

[davestreasurechest]

thank you , he has been on her back for almost 24 hrs ,he is just haveing a hard time getting his "thing" around her wings and into the right spot,..

 

[davestreasurechest]

thank you , he has been on her back for almost 24 hrs ,he is just haveing a hard time getting his "thing" around her wings and into the right spot,..

 

[massaman]

he will eventually find it just might have to blow oh him to get him to get to the right spot!

 

[davestreasurechest]

should i leave him on her back for another overnight ? you said a few days is okay ,..right?

 

[davestreasurechest]

lol ! its like trying to mate a dog and a elaphant , poor little guy

 

[Rick]

Well he's doing more than mine. My male gets on and sits there and does nothing. I won't leave them alone because he is the only male I have but I am running out of time. They can be difficult to mate.

 

[hibiscusmile]

I would remove him, sorry about not answering last nite, had to go to bed.... I just removed two guys before I came on the site last night, as they were just sitting there and the girls are waiting and u know it cause they wont eat sometimes when the boys are just sitting there. So instead of chancing having nothing, I take them out, on the other hand if the boys are on their last pink legs there is not much chance of them living much longer I will leave them cause as Phil very well knows as do some of you, your darmed if u do and darmed if u dont!

 

[davestreasurechest]

I removed them on september 12th and put Sarah back in her cage , today Sept 16th i just put Sarah back in his cage and put him right on her back

and went to drummin and trying to get it in ,..but she went to the top mesh and her wings droop down way to far for him,and she kept swatting her wings and scratching her butt,......So i took (him on her back) them out and put them in her cage on the bottom and gave her some honey, it seemed to calm her down , he was so close! he was in the perfect spot and he drummed in moved wrong and missed again,..those darn wings are just getting in the way! ,...a wife suppose to take her wedding dress off before bedtime <joke> !lol ,,i will keep posting,...prayers for Sarah and Chris

would be appreciated,...

 

[massaman]

well not a expert on mating this species but I have a few species with long wings like the miomantis and well what seemed to work for me anyways was just leave them both in a empty net cage with nothing inside and give them something to eat first off in the net cage and let them be alone and then they did manage to mate and was a success as this technique worked on all 3 of my miomantis females with the same male and worked with my european and has worked with my creobroter species but not sure if this would work with yours but never hurts to give it a try!

 

[davestreasurechest]

This is whats going on !

 

[Rick]

Blow a quick breath on him as that will often make him do something. They can sit like that a long time before doing anything. You should have her hanging so her abdomen is flat against her wings and closer for him. If he doesn't do anything for several hours I would seperate and try again later.

 

[hibiscusmile]

Has he been in another room? The scenes u showed are typical of the species, and her wings are not in the way, when he goes to mate, he will be a little (not much) one sided and his abdomen will turn into a U and it will happen, blowing does help, but hard to say what he is thinking, if he is in same room as her, he probably wont do anything.

 

[davestreasurechest]

WHEN THEY MATE HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE HIM TO BE CONNECTED? COULD IT HAVE ALLREADY HAPPEND AND HE IS JUST ALONG FOR THE RIDE ,OR WILL HE GET OFF HER WHEN HE IS DONE?

Has he been in another room? The scenes u showed are typical of the species, and her wings are not in the way, when he goes to mate, he will be a little (not much) one sided and his abdomen will turn into a U and it will happen, blowing does help, but hard to say what he is thinking, if he is in same room as her, he probably wont do anything.

 

[ABbuggin]

Try relaxing on the caps.

They probably havn't mated yet, this takes hours and you would of probably have seen them in action.

 

[agent A]

In my experience, I have seen that using a different male is often the answer, and also, if the male is just sitting there, get the female crawling around because I have seen males sit on females and when she starts moving, he starts trying to connect.