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I begun to try someone called Zaina Zoya or something like that, because I saw her prices were low, but when I saw that she was selling Deroplatys, I thought something were wrong, and She begun to sent me mails everyday, and I told her about I couldn´t send her money without a feed back of "her", so She said, She was going to send me the ooths, and when they arrive, I should pay her, So I thought, in that way.. It could be possible done, but I ask just for few ooths (I had not too much money to expend in 20 or 30 ooths), and I told her what I wanted, but she told me she sent me several ooths, more than what I could pay.

So I expected for about a month without getting nothing, but in that month she was asking me to pay her all the money, but I told her I hadn´t recived anything, then She started to ask me for just few bucks for her expenses, but because She was a pain in the ......, I thoguht She may not sent anything and any money She could get for me could be fine, so after more than a Year I haven´t recived anything from her, and She was asking everyday for money, so, If you want to be pacefull, I can suggest you not to go on with her.

some emails We share were:

ZAINA wrote:

Dear Sir,

I`m Oothecas supplier from Tanzania,i have got your contacts in the mantidforum.

I would like to do business with you and di have so many different Oothecas,I can send to you the price list if you have interested,

I`m looking forward to hear from you soon,

Regards,

Zaina.

I wrote this

Zaina:

I´m interested in Idolomantis, Pyrgomantis, Empusas, H. Coronatus and D. Desiccatas (by now), but I know Coronatus and Desiccatas are from Malaysia and you are from Tanzania.... how do you get them?, How fresh are they?.

Your prices are in USD?

One of the most important thing... How can I trust in you? I mean If I pay you before you send the ooths, How can I be sure You are going to send them?, Should we try with one ooth first?? and after We can try some others??

You don´t tell me if I can pay you with PAYPAL.

sincerely

Arturo

Zania wote

Dear Arturo,

Thank you very much for your calm message,

Yes i have understand you very well my friend,the price are in USD.

All Oothecas i get them here in Africa,i would like to inform you that you will get the complete Oothecas that you will order to me without any problems.

Something that you suppose to do, is to send me the complete order with numbers to very specie of Ootheca,and after that i can start the procedures.

I will send your parcel through EMS and i will make sure i send to you a tracking number to assure you that your Oothecas has been sent.And the parcel will only take 3 days to reach you and EMS will bring your parcel until to your home.

The Oothecas that i will send to you will be fresh and top quality enough,here are several ways to send to me the money,

1.Bank account

2.Western Union Money Transfer,

3.Money Gram.

4.Paypal account: We don`t have this current service here in our country.

NB:Do not be worried for getting your Oothecas we have to trust each other.

I need to do long term business with you and i assure you will enjoy.

I`m looking forward your complete order and address,

Kind regards,

Zaina.

She wrote:

Dear Arturo,

Tomorrow i will send to you the Oothecas as a trial,if you will pay me after arrival.

We will do long term business together,

Will you send to me the shipping cost or you will pay me after?

And how many days will you take to pay me after received the consignment?

Reply me asap,

Regards,

Zaina.

and after ..... 38 emails (and more cause I stop reciving her mails) she told me things like:

swear to my God that i have sent to you the parcel.

And i gave you all information about the parcel,if anyone says that i`m a scammers that`s nice to me but no one knows only God.I have sent so many parcel to many buyers without any advance and they do not pay me my money,after received my parcels they anounce that Zaina is scammer,also i remember i have been told you something like that before sending to you my parcel.

And now this is what happened to me again.

Kindly let me know what is goping on this mutual business if will be ok.

Regards,

Zaina.

and this

Hello Arturo, Why don`t you reply me? Are you businessman or scammers like other peple? I have never doing business like this stuation from to you. You have already received the parcel and you don`t want to pay my money why???????? But i think do you remember for what i tiold you previously. You told me that you are right person and you can`t scam me,so what are you doing right now? This is pity and sad because i didn`t think that,is this what you are!!! But ok no problem and thank you for what you have done to me.If i made mistakes to risk my parcel to you,i sent it without any of your cent and now you don`t reply me while you have received the Oothecas,God will reward you if it is really my sweat. I`m writting this message to you with very big hart. Thank you but you can`t be a richman for this. Miss Zaina.

 
Wow I'm so glad I asked if this was a scam on here! You guys/gals are awesome with your personal responses. Thanks a lot! I am about to have 5 different spices come Tuesday thanks to Yen Saw :D and two of those I will be breading ( crosses finger's hopes its not to hard and males heads don't get bitten off >.< ). The days are going by so slow waiting anxiously for the mantids to arrive!

 
It may be wise for us to begin a Breeder Feedback thread on Zaina. Nobody appears to have completed a transaction with her, but a brief account of your initial dealings with her might be useful to future members.

The classifieds section is really not the place to be holding this discussion. Neither are the feedback threads, but I think this situation is concerning enough that it warrants it up to this point.

Please remember:

1. Only people who have actually exchanged emails with her should be posting feedback of their (attempted) transaction with her.

2. Please don't copy and paste her letters to you. Simply paraphrase your experience with her, positive or negative.

3. "Discussions" are not allowed in the classifieds or breeder feedback sections.

Actually, I'll go create the breeder feedback thread and post the link here for your convenience.

Here it is: http://mantidforum.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=22281

 
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massaman said:
I am sure some people even in this forum have gotten what they wanted from this person without being scammed not everyone is scammed but not everyone is not scammed either its just a hit or miss in my opinon!
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Paul: It's nice to hear that not all the members here are cynics, but here is another massaman, also named Paul, who has another opinion:

massaman24 November 2009, 18:39here is the email I got from this scammer and his header information

Dear Paul,

Thank you very much for your mail and order,

But i would like to tell you that the business no need angry or panic.

The business its soft tongue.So i`m able to do business with you but your words it`s too hash.But no problem i think you will be my good buyer of Oothecas.

Kind reffer my request pls" send to me the shipping cost 30$ in my address bellow;

Zaina Muhidini Msuya

P.o.box 31300

Dar es Salaam

Tanzania

Tel+255 715 50 22 90.

Send this shipping cost via Western Union Money Transfer tomorrow morning,after receiving the shipping cost i will ship the package tomorrow because I have them in my stock and they are very well because its not heached.

Kindly get back to me with the full WU details.

Regards,

Zaina.

NB" I will send 6pcs Oothecas for the sample.

I wonder how that deal worked out!

 
I'm only me, not a complicated person to figure out. Treat me and others with respect and you get the same back. I have had disappointments, I have peeves, I have faults, I've made mistakes BUT I have also achieved success, happiness, and joy which have all molded me into who I am.well people and things change and please dont post stuff about me again its not very nice and find this as a attack on me personally and of course people make bad judgement calls and what not and I dont deserve this esp from the likes of you and its things like this that should not be relived or remembered!I never did any deals with her and even if I did she would not commit to any other payments that I chose anyways like cash or checks so and besides I moved on from this and want to execute the past and bury it forever in the graveyard of memories!

"hope for the future is only utopia"

 
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massaman said:
I'm only me, not a complicated person to figure out. Treat me and others with respect and you get the same back. I have had disappointments, I have peeves, I have faults, I've made mistakes BUT I have also achieved success, happiness, and joy which have all molded me into who I am.well people and things change and please dont post stuff about me again its not very nice and find this as a attack on me personally and of course people make bad judgement calls and what not and I dont deserve this esp from the likes of you and its things like this that should not be relived or remembered!I never did any deals with her and even if I did she would not commit to any other payments that I chose anyways like cash or checks so and besides I moved on from this and want to execute the past and bury it forever in the graveyard of memories!

"hope for the future is only utopia"
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Hold on there,massaman. In no way did I intend or show you any disrespect, and I didn't post something about you, but by you. The only reason that I posted it, was because in that post you seem, like everyone else, convinced that the dealer in question was a scammer, but now you say that you are sure that some folks on this forum have had good dealings with her. I thought that you had worked out a successful deal in the meantime. Now that wasn't very hard, was it?

Actually, you seem to be wiser than I. Around the time that you were dealing with the "white lady", someone on this forum was asking about a net cube and implying that he could not afford the market price. I had just made an excellent deal with Katnapper on some of these cubes, so I sent him one for free. Not only did he never acknowledge it, but I later learned that he was making cash deals for multiple ooths!

Still, I'm sure that the Great Mantis Goddess (BbHN) will reward me in due time! :p

 
I never did get the net cube and leaving the conversation at that and turning my back and walking off into the wilds to bug hunt to feed my hungry mantis collection!

 
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