Idolo. Consolo. Thread in G.Dis.

[fleurdejoo]

Ha! I love my title!

So Just askin'?

How come that thread has devoloved into general discussion? Not that I'm not guilty of it.

Actually I'm not sure if I posted in there or not but...

Wouldn't it be cool if that thread was just successful and failed techniques!??

With no one just shooting the S#!t and stuff?

Just because, I think it would be so awesome if we had a few pinned threads that are breed specific care sheets.

But how would a newb ever sift through it if everyone's in there just chatting??

Maybe we could start another thread for the chatting part?

They could, I did, but, a lot of sifting.

Hope no one gets mad at me.

 

[Mime454]

I agree. There should be a thread about only what works, maybe where only approved members are allowed to post, and another thread to ask questions and chat about care.

Maybe even an entire caresheet forum allowing OP's to decide who can post.

 

[brancsikia339]

But the first post is the caresheet.

That thread exists for the sole purpose of idolo breeders telling about their raising experiences and useful info to the newbies

Btw love the title fleurdejoo!!

 

[fleurdejoo]

I get that the first post is the care sheet.

However, I still think my point is valid and it would be cool to have some pinned care sheets.

I know you can find them different places online.

However if you read Sporeworld's post, and here is the opener.

Posted 28 April 2011 - 10:39 PM

Hey, all!

I'm going to (try to) post what I have from all my notes on Idolomantis diabolica. I hope we can put this towards a difinitive Idolomantis diabolica Caresheet. So much is opinion & reports... and debatable... and desperate for citations. Maybe we can yell it out here, add pictures and evidence and structure, and get this to a digestable form (or format) we can be proud to show.

Pound away at it, and collectively, maybe we'll get these critters firmly into culture in the US.

Good luck!

Sporeworld didn't really say let's talk about...

How thrilled Jude was the first time she saw them threat display.

I think it would be more appropriate to post your notes if you have any you feel are relevant then what Jude's female had for dinner?

I mean molting schedules, enclosure successes and failures etc.

Then you could start a thread entitled Idolomantis, What they like to eat? What they like to wear? Who they're sleeping with? Party affiliations? Discuss.

Where you could just talk about it.

I totally want to talk about what we are all doing with our Idolo's!

I just think some pinned care sheets would be cool, that you don't have to pick through for info.

I know I said that already!

 

[brancsikia339]

You're right. We should separate discussion from fact

 

[Rick]

I was reading it earlier and I agree. Editing it at this point would be quite a task. Though what is fact? I think different techniques are what they should be called.

 

[fleurdejoo]

Totally agree Rick. What is fact?

Yeah, reading the different approaches is very interesting to me.

It seems people have had success with different techniques.

So different techniques is the best way to put it.

Yeah editing it would be a yucky job.

I don't see that happening.

I wish there was an option on here to delete your own posts.

Think that could be done?

 

[angelofdeathzz]

Even though I'm guilty of talking too much from time to time, most of what I've written in Idolomantis consolidated is to help other people succeed as I have, from their day one to mating to hatching a ooth from a Idolo! Of course there's more than one way to skin a cat, but I try to share things that make this slightly more difficult species to raise and breed obtainable to all...?

 

[brancsikia339]

Even though I'm guilty of talking too much from time to time, most of what I've written in Idolomantis consolidated is to help other people succeed as I have, from their day one to mating to hatching a ooth from a Idolo! Of course there's more than one way to skin a cat, but I try to share things that make this slightly more difficult species to raise and breed obtainable to all...?

Hopefully you'll get a new generation going! I wanna try my hand at breeding them again. It's too bad no one else had sub males and females

 

[Bug Trader]

If it were my choice, I would suggest another method. Being that care sheets are usually based on one or a few peoples experiences why not make a breeding caresheet section for each species, This would allow each person who accomplishes raising and breeding the species to write a nice one post caresheet on it all. Put all the posts for each species together and it would make things simpler, no debate, no off topic posts just caresheet after caresheet of the species for people to learn from.

I have 5 unrelated lines of Idolo's from L3-L6 now soon I hope to write up my own experiences success or not.

 

[gripen]

If it were my choice, I would suggest another method. Being that care sheets are usually based on one or a few peoples experiences why not make a breeding caresheet section for each species, This would allow each person who accomplishes raising and breeding the species to write a nice one post caresheet on it all. Put all the posts for each species together and it would make things simpler, no debate, no off topic posts just caresheet after caresheet of the species for people to learn from.

I have 5 unrelated lines of Idolo's from L3-L6 now soon I hope to write up my own experiences success or not.

The problem with that is simply not every species needs a new thread. 99% of mantids have the same care making most of these threads redundant. Though that being said I would love to see breeding diaries for each species.

 

[Bug Trader]

My only point is how do you validate one persons points over anothers if they both successfully breed the species using different techniques...........This is why I suggested the no debate style setup of one post breeder/ caresheets over one big group setup that will be a mixed mess.

As for many species using the same techniques it still wouldnt hurt to create a library of care for each species in the hobby, Id did wonders for the dart frog hobby, being able to link the species page to all new comers asking the same old questions on a certain species.

 

[fleurdejoo]

Yeah in my original post I said it would be nice to see pinned care sheets for some different species, breeds whatever.

I understand they don't all need one.

I am not saying, just the facts as I think we established earlier when Rick said "what is fact?"

What I'm saying is anyone who is truly interested in reading Idolo.Consolo. is there to read about the different techniques that have been successful or failed. They don't want to

sift through all of the mundane "look I put my female on the cat!! Lol!!" not that anyone ever did that but you see the difference?

 

[fleurdejoo]

Also Nick you are so generous with your time and knowledge, you rock!!!

I could read your Idolo posts all day, boyfriend!!!

 

[angelofdeathzz]

Also Nick you are so generous with your time and knowledge, you rock!!!

I could read your Idolo posts all day, boyfriend!!!

Your too kind... :blush: I agree totally that it should be thinned down, it was not intended as a "Idolo theater" or "talk show" it was to discuss what will work to get them going and keep them around here in the USA, nothing more...?

 

[angelofdeathzz]

And since you brought it up, Sporeworld is one of the best things to happen to the forum in a while, his heart, best wishes, and generosity are second to none! A little birdie told me he may be back here soon, just needed a break from the madness for a bit to get his vacation on...

 

[fleurdejoo]

I wondered about that.

I had sent him a message a while back and his inbox was full.

 

[Precarious]

Hahaha! I guess I'm not the only one annoyed by all the bull filling that thread. Really detracts from its value.

 

[gripen]

Hahaha! I guess I'm not the only one annoyed by all the bull filling that thread. Really detracts from its value.

Tell me about it. Nobody took me seriously when I approached the idea of being tougher on off topic posts in such threads as those.