Idolo. Consolo. Thread in G.Dis.

[Precarious]

fftopic:

really. in this thread where we're talking about NOT being off topic? :lol:

Now you're off topic. We're now talking about beer-drinking dogs and holey pants.

 

[brancsikia339]

Now you're off topic. We're now talking about beer-drinking dogs and holey pants.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[angelofdeathzz]

Now you're off topic. We're now talking about beer-drinking dogs and holey pants.

Those pants are wicked!!! But Bran339 this topic is not unapproachable, it's about another thread, see the difference?

 

[brancsikia339]

Those pants are wicked!!! But Bran339 this topic is not unapproachable, it's about another thread, see the difference?

Yeah, i got it

 

[lancaster1313]

I am guilty anyway? It will take a while, but I will post the beer stealing dog pic. In the "other discussions".

I sent it to a member via mobile phone, so at least that person knows that it exists.

I need a while to get used to the iPad that I am now using. My kid needs the laptop for her homework among other things....

She won't let me have it..

 

[fleurdejoo]

Likebugs, I hope we get to see it.

 

[Precarious]

Hey everybody,

Here is an idea that may be fairly simple to implement and effective at eliminating the pointless/uninformative/non-entertaining drivel some members choose to pollute the threads with.

Why not add a "Do Not Like This" button? That way the idiots... I mean "members" guilty of this crime can be made aware that their comments, where inappropriate, are no appreciated. Perhaps each "Do Not Like This" would also subtract from their standing by reducing post count. That way if you constantly make annoying posts you remain forever a lowly nymph. And if your count goes negative you get booted or probation.

What say you, oh wise denizens of this here said mantid forum? :huh:

 

[Mime454]

Hey everybody,

Here is an idea that may be fairly simple to implement and effective at eliminating the pointless/uninformative/non-entertaining drivel some members choose to pollute the threads with.

Why not add a "Do Not Like This" button? That way the idiots... I mean "members" guilty of this crime can be made aware that their comments, where inappropriate, are no appreciated. Perhaps each "Do Not Like This" would also subtract from their standing by reducing post count. That way if you constantly make annoying posts you remain forever a lowly nymph. And if your count goes negative you get booted or probation.

What say you, oh wise denizens of this here said mantid forum? :huh:

I could see an issue where one member attacks another by down voting all of their posts.

 

[Precarious]

I could see an issue where one member attacks another by down voting all of their posts.

Well maybe points are only deducted after several members dislike the post, or something along those lines. And Likes would counter Dislikes. I think the names should be shown just as they are for likes so we know who is complaining. Would be pretty simple to see if there really is value to a post or not.

 

[aNisip]

I love this idea of dislike button...we can dislike what so many cough-cough members like to do... could you end up a negative nymph? :huh: ...that would be funny

 

[angelofdeathzz]

It's a good Idea but I think the Mods here count the report button as the dislike button, as it stands now? If enough people ask Peter to add a dislike then it could happen, couldn't hurt to try?

 

[Precarious]

It's a good Idea but I think the Mods here count the report button as the dislike button, as it stands now? If enough people ask Peter to add a dislike then it could happen, couldn't hurt to try?

The mods would go nuts if we use the report button in that way. It's intended to flag illegal or banned material. I've only ever used that button once. You can guess who forced me to do that.

Would have to be a Dislike button that keeps a total same as Likes, or works against the same total. Would be good to have that total listed under our names rather than number of posts which is obviously meaningless.

Bug Trader told me he's seen this work on other forums, as you don't have to clutter a thread with expressing your disapproval. You just click a button and move on.

 

[Bug Trader]

A dislike buttom will help the situation. It allows for people to show their dislike for a post without having to toss their two cents into the thread further running it off topic or creating a debate on trivial stuff. I would suggest should you dislike a post on grounds its sharing bad info that you quote it still and post the facts up because we need to delete the bad info and look at the forum as a teaching guide first, its the only way the hobby will grow and people will learn.

We tested this out in the dart frog hobby, a hobby that is far more cut throat on facts, and teaching guides and it worked and limited the off topic BS.

Another flaw in forums are the ranks based on post counts, this drives new and old hobbyists to just post for no other reason than to boost their ego through the reputation setting. A post count does not reflect knowledge or experience, I can point out many examples "names" on this board who for the most part have a post count grown from 2 word replies, welcome posts and off topic chat. Something to think about,,....

As for the thread this subject started on, the need for info and facts is all it needs, further advancments in husbandry and breeding not pics, One of the first posts should have been pics of the males and females at all stages, other than that we shouldnt be seeing peoples Idolo pics unless its a breeding shot followed by info on their routine to make it happen.

 

[agent A]

ok let me just say that although at first i was a bit off topic in the thread abt blephs, i edited most of my posts in there where i mentioned blephs

secondly, i was keeping track of my idolo's growth to show variation in a species

precarious says "we all know what they look like" and all but it doesnt hurt to have a large database of photos of them because there is considerable variation with them

i noticed my idolo has a lot of purple on the thorax and behind the head but it might be different in other individuals i was just trying to illustrate the variation with my photos

also the length of time it takes for the adult color to set in can vary, as well as many other things such as growth rates (even if 2 mantises r reared identically, 1 may grow much faster than the other for various reasons)

i can see maybe peeps are mad at me and others for being a bit off topic or posting too much in the thread, but i think i can speak for all those who posted too much, idolo related or not, that we weren't being malicious or anything, we were just trying to contribute

 

[Precarious]

OK, restate...

Like and Dislike buttons adding/subtracting from the same total, in addition to or in place of number of posts.

A preset negative number, like -50 or whatever seems fair, leads to disciplinary measures (up to and including public execution).

I think the shame alone will force rehabilitation of habitual abusers. Would force people to accept the reality of whether or not they are having a positive effect on the community.

 

[agent A]

OK, restate...

Like and Dislike buttons adding/subtracting from the same total, in addition to or in place of number of posts.

A preset negative number, like -50 or whatever seems fair, leads to disciplinary measures (up to and including public execution).

I think the shame alone will force rehabilitation of habitual abusers. Would force people to accept the reality of whether or not they are having a positive effect on the community.

sounds good but idk if peeps need to be executed because 50 others r mad at what they say

because i'm sure 47% of the US is mad at a certain politician but hes still alive

i think everyone wants to contribute but i think contributions to topics should be worth something to the topic

and yes i know i dont always contribute the best stuff to topics but now that i see it upsets peeps ima gonna do somethin abt it

 

[Precarious]

i can see maybe peeps are mad at me and others for being a bit off topic or posting too much in the thread, but i think i can speak for all those who posted too much, idolo related or not, that we weren't being malicious or anything, we were just trying to contribute

And even though our annoyance was made clear to you it did not alter your behavior. You have made it very obvious that you don't care how others feel about how your "contributions" disrupt the function of this forum.

Just look at your response to my complaint about all the photos you posted: "watevs

ik angelofdeathzz was complaining abt off topicness here but it wasnt just me"

We now have to devise a means of stopping a trend you started and continue to promote.

 

[Bug Trader]

ok let me just say that although at first i was a bit off topic in the thread abt blephs, i edited most of my posts in there where i mentioned blephs

Should the off topic stuff even be posted in the first place when its a thread being valued as a teaching guide?

secondly, i was keeping track of my idolo's growth to show variation in a speciesprecarious says "we all know what they look like" and all but it doesnt hurt to have a large database of photos of them because there is considerable variation with them

A data base of pics belongs in the Photo section, just name it Idolomantis Variations or something. It doesnt have anything to do with the captive management of the species. People can learn to look for selective traits after they learn to properly care for and breed them.

I really dont see a point in the off topic chat, or even people turning a thread about a success into a classifieds inquiry. Respect the topic and the person who has done the work to make sure the species is here and managed.

 

[Bug Trader]

Bringing up the fact certain politions are still alive is as bad as any other BS you have posted, Your really going off topic and tossing politics into it. Thats as bad as it gets. Its like someone posting up your mothers still around and yet 50+ percent are unhappy with how she raised you to be so juvinile and petty.......just saying....

 

[fleurdejoo]

Ok that's enough of that.

Alex has admitted that he was insensitive to the community's feelings on the subject and now he is trying to make it right.

Right A?

I don't believe you know his mother sir and therefore ...shut it down.

How old are you?

I know how old Alex is, he's 16!!

No matter how annoyed I personally am about the Idolo Consolo thread, my best friends Mom always said we had to be nice to the one who every one was mad at.

Having everyone mad at you is the worst!

So lonely.

Let's just be nice ok?