Idolo's are so freaking ANNOYING

[Schloaty]

Egads, man!

I have great conditions for these jerks, but they just DIE! Well, once got EATEN by a cage mate, so you can't blame that one....

Not like there wasn't enough food in there.

Out of 4 l2's, the first to molt was just fine.

Then one had a bad molt. then one got et.

Now, the final one had a bad molt. What gives?

It's warm. It's humid. I mist. I have tons of sticks. ARG! :angry: :angry:

 

[kitkat39]

One of the reasons why I'm choosing to hold off on the Idolos =)

 

[ismart]

Don't beat yourself up over this. When trying to raise this species it's best to start with a lot of nymphs. Even in ideal conditions these guys will die for no reason, and miss molt. Good luck with the rest!

 

[LauraMG]

There's several people who have years and years of experience with mantids that have had the same problems. It's just their nature. Funny how the most beautiful ones end up being the most difficult!

 

[PhilinYuma]

There's several people who have years and years of experience with mantids that have had the same problems. It's just their nature. Funny how the most beautiful ones end up being the most difficult!

Knew a couple of girls like that once!

 

[LauraMG]

Knew a couple of girls like that once!

Ha! Allow me to follow that thought all the way through and say that eventually it's just not worth it! :lol:

 

[thorhack]

I disagree, lol it's worth it, but only after you've been through bad relationship, after bad relationship. then BAM!!!! it's soul mate time ...UH-OH!!!!

But anyways...I want an Idolo really bad but you guys are making my leary towards them haha

Oh and Laura did Zorak pass?

 

[LauraMG]

Oh and Laura did Zorak pass?

Yes, I put her down. She had injured her legs so badly somehow that she couldn't climb or dangle or walk or anything. It just wasn't fair to force her to keep living. She would have been dead in the wild long ago, so I gave her a longer life than she would've had. I loved that bug.

 

[steveo]

A Glass tank is what you need.

Half inch batten fitted inside to make mesh panels then hessian on the back

wall? and take all the twigs out.I have no problems with mine this is how mine are done.

 

[Rick]

A Glass tank is what you need.

Half inch batten fitted inside to make mesh panels then hessian on the back

wall? and take all the twigs out.I have no problems with mine this is how mine are done.

Got any pics?

 

[thorhack]

dang, I'm sorry Laura.

 

[Schloaty]

and take all the twigs out

OY! Isn't the the exact opposite of what Tier reccomended?

Just goes to show, I guess, that there really is no perfect setup.

I have plastic walls, the remaining one cannot climb...so it does use the sticks.

The two that had bad molts never fell....they just got stuck in their old skins and died, just hanging there. Kinda of macabre, actually.

Well, at least the last remaining L3 is healthy and eating well.

 

[Rick]

OY! Isn't the the exact opposite of what Tier reccomended?

Just goes to show, I guess, that there really is no perfect setup.

I have plastic walls, the remaining one cannot climb...so it does use the sticks.

The two that had bad molts never fell....they just got stuck in their old skins and died, just hanging there. Kinda of macabre, actually.

Well, at least the last remaining L3 is healthy and eating well.

Yes it is. Idolo can climb screen even as adults with zero issues. They just fall when molting. I actually wonder how much the surface itself plays into the whole issue.

 

[Colorcham427]

Tank? do you keep a good fan in the room to circulate air, preventing stagnant air? Humidity is a big part of providing for molting, yet Idolos shouldn't get misted often?

I have a few pathos plants i keep around my room, well watered so that does give off a nice humid feel.

I am curious why this species has such trouble around L6+

This is probably why their ooths are so big! No?

I have yet to work with D. Lobata but they also have huge hatch rates, haven't searched yet but do most of them have trouble as they get bigger and heavier?

The more weight, I imagine they have more trouble molting, moving around, balancing etc.

Wish I could put some Velcro shoes on them just at sub-adult!!! LOLOLOL

 

[guapoalto049]

Wish I could put some Velcro shoes on them just at sub-adult!!! LOLOLOL

Brian, you may be on to something here. It could be "Idolosandals" or "Devil flower foot grips". You'd get a ton of business with all the demoralized owners on this forum alone!

 

[paddythemic]

I had one L2 Idolomantis recently die from getting stuck in it's molt. Then i brought in a humidifier and ran it for two days. During this "humidity time" I had a successful L2 molt from a different one.

I think I will do this when I suspect that they are going to molt again.

I have a feeling that misting them directly may lead to the "black necrosis". Also - I probably shouldn't humidify too much. (I do need to get a humidity gauge though).

Can anyone think of a reason why it could be a BAD IDEA to "spot humidify"?

 

[hibiscusmile]

If they are not used to it, like when the weather turns for us and a lot of us get sick, it would stand to reason that the same happens to them, wouldn't it?

 

[PhilinYuma]

If they are not used to it, like when the weather turns for us and a lot of us get sick, it would stand to reason that the same happens to them, wouldn't it?

Not really! All other animals are a lot tougher than we!

 

[hibiscusmile]

Thanks for the help Phil!