L4 Egyptian mantis nymph sexing

[Bdawg]

https://anonimage.net/image/oQDnd8VSAX

Still possible early but getting clearly defined with every molt. I have a rough idea, but just need another rough idea to compare it to. 

 

[Connor]

L4 already? I thought they just molted to L3?

 

[Bdawg]

L4 already? I thought they just molted to L3?

Apparently one molted before arrival. 

 

[Connor]

Looks male to me although it may still be too early.

 

[Bdawg]

I was told L2/L3 when I got them, one has molted within days of arrival, the other hasn't. The larger one must have been L3 on arrival. The smaller one did molt and is still smaller. If I get some good photos, can you pinpoint exactly please?

 

[Bdawg]

I meant pinpoint the age, I know Its still a little early to be precise about the sex of them

 

[Connor]

L4 is when you can really start telling with these smaller species. L3 is still to early. If they are L4 and you get a good pic I can give it a shot.

 

[Connor]

I meant pinpoint the age, I know Its still a little early to be precise about the sex of them

Ok I can try

 

[Bdawg]

L4 is when you can really start telling with these smaller species. L3 is still to early. If they are L4 and you get a good pic I can give it a shot.

I'll try to find a sheet of glass of something so I can get some high definition shots from underneath. There is a considerable size difference between them both

 

[Connor]

If you put them both near each other I can try and tell age.... at least if they are the same age or not.

 

[Bdawg]

If you put them both near each other I can try and tell age.... at least if they are the same age or not.

I'll try my best, I haven't let them loose near each other before for fear they'll freak out and attack. 

 

[PrayingMantisPets]

That first pic is a male. I can see 8 segments 

 

[PrayingMantisPets]

https://anonimage.net/image/RfPc6TzDrM

here I labeled your pic with numbers on the segment. Males have 8 while females have 6

 

[Bdawg]

https://anonimage.net/image/RfPc6TzDrM

here I labeled your pic with numbers on the segment. Males have 8 while females have 6

Thank you, that's awesome. I understand that it may still change but it'll help assist in names at least. I'll try to get one of them both side by side, and another clear one of the other ones segments. 

 

[PrayingMantisPets]

I don’t think it can change.

 

[Bdawg]

I don’t think it can change.

A few people told me they can't tell yet because the  end segments may fuse together, but when they reach a certain instar you can tell for sure. Trouble is identifying the exact age, as one has molted, the other has not. They were simply advertised as L2/L3 and one has molted since, so one is definitely no older than L4 and no younger than L3, but I can only go by the one that has molted. 

 

[Connor]

Idk if this guy can change.... looks pretty definite. 

 

[Bdawg]

Idk if this guy can change.... looks pretty definite. 

Thanks. The other one is proving trickier. Little smaller, and faster. Less willing to stay still long enough. 

 

[PrayingMantisPets]

Get him occupied. Food, honey, water etc.