Limbata ooth?

[agent A]

I have an easy way of solving this

When carey gets the ooth, she posts pics of it, maybe u mixed the ooth up or something

And when the ooth hatches we'll see wat the nymphs grow into

 

[CoolMantid]

She got the ooth the same time as you. Also I told you, I couldnt garentee fertility of the ooth because I found the female. But you still wanted the ooth. So it might not hatch.

My blurry picture I posted is the one Carey Requested. Thats the one she has now.See the major difference. Also ask Yen how she got that ooth she gave you. if she found a female. She couldv'e mixed up the nearly identical species. I really hope I didnt get confused and sent you the S. Limbata! *I know the ooths are from different species* Why dont you talk to Carey and see what she thinks?!

 

[CoolMantid]

If it hatches I think the ones that start as dark brown hatchlings are the S. californica, and S. limbata, which looks similar, but is larger, and the nymphs hatch out bigger and pale cream color.

I've been doing research to show you the difference. But I found out S. Carolina live in CA too!!! They are also incredilby simmilar! So it could be one of those!

 

[CoolMantid]

So I found this picture. ITS NOT MINE

This is a Stagmomantis Limbata hindwing

 

[CoolMantid]

This is Yen Saws picture

Its a Stagmomantis Californica

Do you see the difference!?

 

[CoolMantid]

Also Stagmomantis Carolina is extremly rare in CA!

 

[happy1892]

They are very different. I have read that Stagmomantis carolina only lives in the southern part of California.

 

[CoolMantid]

I am in Sourthern CA

 

[happy1892]

I caught a female Carolina Mantis in Wake Forest, North Carolina. They are small and cute! She laid a fertile ootheca.

 

[agent A]

first off, yen is a guy, and i see the difference

i know the differences between the two, but I dont know what YOUR female looks like

only you do, but i dont have any view of her

anyways i think u may have mixed up our ooths but it doesn't matter to me

if carey got the californica and i got the limbata, and if she wants the limbata really badly, carey and i could easily swap ooths

if u accidentally switched the ooths it's perfectly ok, peeps make mistakes, not the end of the world

 

[GreenOasis]

S. carolina are widespread throughout the US, while the S. californica are only in certain areas (primarily California). I am waiting for my pictures to transfer, but suffice to say the the ooth I received doesn't look much like the Limbata ooths I had previously at all.

The fact that I can't even FIND pics of an S. californica ooth through Googling suggests that the species is more rare than anyone thinks. It would be nice if this is an S. californica ooth, if that is the case.

Well, I will drop off my orders at the PO while I am waiting for my pics to arrive in my email...and come back to this thread a little later. TTFN!

 

[agent A]

i think u may have the cali ooth

i raised some from yen once, it was a disaster!

out of 50 nymphs, 8 came out alive

they died soon afterward

then 12 more hatched 3 weeks later

6 made it to L5 then one by one died off

 

[GreenOasis]

Must be why they are so rare!

 

[agent A]

Must be why they are so rare!

i had a messed up summer for many reasons which may have contributed to all this as well

also the ooth was incubated cool and mayve been diapaused too cold

 

[CoolMantid]

Stagmomantis Californica are in my backyard. (Might be casue I released an ooth there) So there are not that rare and Stagmomantis Limbata are all over my school.

Carey I am 100% sure yours is a Stagmomantis Limbata. (She was nice solid green) (She glided to the floor, showing her yellow hindwings) But some kids were messing around with her while she was laying so I can not garentee fertility.

As for you Agent A, I am 90% sure it is a Stagmomantis Californica. (She was mottled brown) (She laid it in my captivity, 4 days after I found her) So I also can not garentee fertility

 

[agent A]

the messing of her will not affect fertility

whether or not she mated will be the deciding factor

we'll see wat happens when they hatch

 

[CoolMantid]

If you want to swap ooths. That is fine by me.

If the molt to adult please PM me or email me and tell me what their hindwing color is or look at the other ways I told you to tell the difference.

 

[CoolMantid]

the messing of her will not affect fertility

whether or not she mated will be the deciding factor

we'll see wat happens when they hatch

No, Agent A you dont get it. She could've been fertile but as she was laying never got the chance to lay the eggs in the foam becasue of the kids poking her.

 

[agent A]

u shoulda beat the living daylights outa those kids lol!!! they shouldnt poke a mantis laying an ooth?

wat were they thinking? that it was gonna lay FASTER if they poked the eggs out of it?

 

[CoolMantid]

I started to yell at them and then my P.E. Coach joined in. We were both yelling at them.

Poor female. I let her go and kept the ooth after shcool.