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[massaman]

just wondering if anyone has ever had a parent mantis live long enough to see her ooth hatch before it passes on besides like native species such as the chinese or such as I have the same female and got her very first ooth incubating but has not hatched yet and hope to see the day it hatches and maybe she will stick around little longer as she is doing very well for a chinese mantis that I got from Katnapper!

 

[Rick]

Yes, many times.

 

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Yes, just lasy friday...

 

[d17oug18]

Crobretors, Unicorn Boxers, Miomantis Pakyullii, Gongylus Gongylodes... There are a lot that do and have for me.

 

[revmdn]

Yep, walhbergii right now.

 

[wero626]

Well i dont know if alot do that i havent had no parents stay alive long enough to see the ooth hatch its not likely bc they get weak after having so many ooths but good luck and hope it stays alive long enough to see its babies...

 

[Ntsees]

I think it depends on how the ooths are kept. If the ooths are kept in a warm environment (excluding species with diapause), there's a good chance the parent will get to see it's young. In my case, I have the ooths hatch naturally when weather conditions allow them and so the parents never get to see their young. The closest I've got was an ooth hatching one week after the mother passed away (~3/12/--).

 

[Rick]

I think it depends on how the ooths are kept. If the ooths are kept in a warm environment (excluding species with diapause), there's a good chance the parent will get to see it's young. In my case, I have the ooths hatch naturally when weather conditions allow them and so the parents never get to see their young. The closest I've got was an ooth hatching one week after the mother passed away (~3/12/--).

In my experience it happens often with those species that do not require a diapause.

 

[MantidLord]

In my experience it happens often with those species that do not require a diapause.

+1 that would explain why it happened to my I. oratoria. Though the ooths did hatch "early" instead of the normal period of spring, they hatched in the winter.

 

[Ntsees]

+1 that would explain why it happened to my I. oratoria. Though the ooths did hatch "early" instead of the normal period of spring, they hatched in the winter.

Yeap, that's what happened to my I. oratoria too. The ooths were just kept in my house (room temp.) with no heating at all and one hatched out last winter. When I saw that, I was like "oh shoot" because I didn't want them hatching in the winter. I put the rest of the ooths outside during that time to stop/slow them from developing. I don't know why but I didn't care too much for that lone nymph and so it ended up kicking the bucket.

 

[Ntsees]

In my experience it happens often with those species that do not require a diapause.

Yeah, that's true.

 

[MantidLord]

Yeap, that's what happened to my I. oratoria too. The ooths were just kept in my house (room temp.) with no heating at all and one hatched out last winter. When I saw that, I was like "oh shoot" because I didn't want them hatching in the winter. I put the rest of the ooths outside during that time to stop/slow them from developing. I don't know why but I didn't care too much for that lone nymph and so it ended up kicking the bucket.

That's interesting, my ooths hatched both outside and inside. But none of them survived. They seem to be weaker and develop slower than normal, I wonder if there's any correlation between that and the hatching period.

 

[Ntsees]

That's interesting, my ooths hatched both outside and inside. But none of them survived. They seem to be weaker and develop slower than normal, I wonder if there's any correlation between that and the hatching period.

I don't know if there's any correlation like you mentioned. If it's like you say that they are weaker and slower to develop, that's probably one of the additional things that caused my lone nymph to die. But still, I'd like to test that out someday (maybe I should this winter) to find the real answer.

 

[ismart]

I once had a female Acromantis formosana live long enough to see her children grow to adulthood, and was even remated by one of her son's! :blink: Oh and her few ooths laid after the mating hatched out some nice healthy nymphs. It was a little disturbing, but interesting!

 

[Kruszakus]

That ain't nothing special. Try to get some "incest" in - someone I know had a Hymenopus male jump and mate with its "mother". Now that's a challenge.

 

[ismart]

That ain't nothing special. Try to get some "incest" in - someone I know had a Hymenopus male jump and mate with its "mother". Now that's a challenge.

Well then! I'll take that challenge! I have 5 gravid orchid females. I'm sure one of them should last long enough to get pounded by it's son!

 

[ismart]

Hey Krus,

How would you rate P. wahlbergii as far' 'incest'' challenging? I have L4 nymphs and there moms are still going strong!

 

[Kruszakus]

Hey Krus,How would you rate P. wahlbergii as far' 'incest'' challenging? I have L4 nymphs and there moms are still going strong!

It might be possible, you should give it a try - just to play around