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she was very upset with that cone! =P it was big, it was long, she couldnt lift her head, she shifted ALOT all through the night what little i did see it looked like she was trying to bump him off or slide the cone off lol. at least i know her ego's prego and hes still alive and flying everywhere, hes just like his daddy(me) and has ADD lol cant sit still and cant keep those wings in check.

 
she was very upset with that cone! =P it was big, it was long, she couldnt lift her head, she shifted ALOT all through the night what little i did see it looked like she was trying to bump him off or slide the cone off lol. at least i know her ego's prego and hes still alive and flying everywhere, hes just like his daddy(me) and has ADD lol cant sit still and cant keep those wings in check.
I'm just glad that it worked for you Doug! You didn't get stabbed taking the cone off did you?

 
no haha, she was more relieved than angry, when it came off she lifted her head as high as she could and started stretching her arms and legs. this was also the first time i saw a mating in person, and i did NOT know that he sticks his WHOLE tail in her.... if it was human proportion it would be like sticking a leg in it lol. Now i know why females eat the male, sh!t i would to if mating was like that! lol it just looks horrible and painful for the female! haha

 
Am i the only one who finds this cone plain stupid? I can't really laugh looking at it. As you mentioned: she didn't like the cone. She struggled, then why still do it?

Just learn to mate them, mate.

I have to say, the idea of a wall between the female and male is not that bad. But a cone all around her body where she can't do anything but struggle is just evil man.

 
well have you ever had a mantis you wanted to breed, put the male in, and when he mounts, the female strikes him off, the whole body is now dislodged, you only had one infertile female and one male. Well say good bye to future babies now, i had ONE couple ONE! all she needed to was get angry and copulation is over. desperation makes for alot of stupid ideas(by the way did you know "nachos" were luaghed at in mexico when the first man made it up after having nothing left in his kitchen). you'd be suprised on how many "stupid" ideas came about and now even you use it. ^_^ by the way does it make anyone laugh when he like... FREAK OUT flies on her lol then latches on as if he knows whats going to happen even though never seeing it or knowing about it. mating on this species is fasinating.

 
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Yes i have, that's what breeding mantids is about.. :S

If she snaps at him it means she doesn't want to mate yet. I've bred a lot of mantids, and i've seen females being agressive also. I would stop then, and continue another day. When she would eat more, something else or was just ready. The same female would then be very kind and accept the male on her back. There is huge difference.

Now you are just forcing her to mate, and i don't think that is the right way to do it.

You have to learn their behaviour...

 
That cone is rather large and quite narrow. It also looks pretty tight. Maybe I should show how I make mine with more precision because my females still remain quite comfortable.

 
And she does look like she's trying to pull herself out of the cone... :lol:

Doug, I don't think there's any need to be defensive. We all have differing opinions on wether the cone is a good idea or not. Most of us have already been in the situation of having only one male and what it means to take the chance with having him mate...

Overall, I'm glad it worked for you too. I'll probably never do that myself, but it is good to know there are options.

 
was not getting defensive, just explaining how i felt(of course NEVER desprite! lol) ive mated this species before and have never had the male live past the start line, once hes in she bites his head off, no matter the age. This was m first successful generation(e.g. found wild male female, mated, got ooth, ooth laid) and i got attached! lol these mindless, ugly preditors got some kinda charm eh?

 

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