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I tryed to cross breed Tenodera angustipennis with Tenodera sinensis. It proved to be futile. The male angustipennis was not able to connect with the female sinensis. I only did try it in that order. I have both of these species in a near by park, where there ranges over lap. I have yet to come across a wild hybrid, if thats even possible?It would be interesting to try with 2 similar species like the Tenodera angustipennis (Narrow-Winged) and Tenodera aridifolia sinensis (Chinese) and see what the results are of the attempt.That would be sweet if you could breed a new mantis species!!!
http://ttwebbase.dyndns.org/mantid/view/153.htmlis ther any pictures of the psudeocreobatra hybrids? id like to see them
Only difference is mantid hybrids are considerably weaker than their pure-bred counterparts.He is able physically. That particular male probably just wasn't ready to mate or something. If similar sized they can mate. I had a male giant asian mate with a chinese. The two you are talking about are so similar.
He was ready to mate. He had been an adult for a month already. There is a big size difference between males of both these species. T. angustipennis males are much smaller than your common T. sinensis males. The females of both species are very similar in size. the male angustipennis tried, but could not open the female. I think the best way to explain this would be to say he was coming up a bit small. If i was to pair up a male T. sinensis with a famale T. angustipennis the results might have been better. Charateristics of genitalia also play an important role on if two different species can even mate.
I was under the impression that those two are nearly identical. Both are found around here but I have only found females. With the exception of the underarm color and the under wings they are the same unless I am mistaken.
The genitalia is a bit different from what i remember. Rick, our impression is on point. I only did try to breed them once. Maybe i can try again, and this time i will use a T. sinensis male, and a T. angusitpennis female and see what happens.
Why would the reproductive organs be different. In most species they look the same. I can't imagine that would be different between these two. Every now and then I find wild mantids that are smaller than the norm so maybe this male was.
The male T. angustipennis i have come across over the last three years were all about the same size. He was not smaller than the norm. Maybe your right. I don't normally stare at mantid genitalia for to long periods of time to see if there are any significant differences :lol: . The one thing that does make me wonder is the difference between the ooths. T. angustipennis lays ooths that are elongated, kinda look like carolina, or european ooths than chinese.
