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What species of mantises are most aggressive? I have had an experience once when I kept Chinese mantises with my friend and he stopped keeping his mantis because he kept biting my friend. My Chinese mantis did this too, even to the point of making me bleed until I got the mantis to stop. I have never had any other mantis species bite me like the Chinese mantis and so I was just wondering.

 
My old chinese Sticky bit me at times. Part of the reason was he was mad about something I was/wasn't doing. The other, he was getting alittle senile!

 
I have never gotten bitten by a mantis before. The T. sinensis are not usually the very aggressive type, but still some individuals I had have had a little bit aggressive personalities.

 
I have never gotten bitten by a mantis before. The T. sinensis are not usually the very aggressive type, but still some individuals I had have had a little bit aggressive personalities.
That's me too - I don't have a ton of experience with T. sinensis but I'd say I've handled at least 200 to adult and handled them enough that any biting would probably have shown itself. My guys and girls are very socialized though, maybe that matters.

I'd guess to bite they would have to be stressed and/or extremely hungry.

 
Nope, I fed them every day and they were still very aggressive even though I did not make the mantis be threatened.

 
Nope, I fed them every day and they were still very aggressive even though I did not make the mantis be threatened.
There's a difference between feeling threatened and feeling stressed. Over-handling for example can stress them out but isn't really a "threatened" type of response.

They sound like unappreciative teens, try taking away their car for the weekend and tell them to shape up and practice for their SATs.

 
That's me too - I don't have a ton of experience with T. sinensis but I'd say I've handled at least 200 to adult and handled them enough that any biting would probably have shown itself.
I would say handling 200 adults means you have a ton of experience :clown:

 
Mantises can have individual temperaments and their behavior can be affected by what sort of conditions they developed in. Frequent handling makes them more accustomed to the stimuli associated with handling because certain types of repeated stimuli can desensitize their reflexes and insects react primarily by reflex.

 
"out of box" aggro

ooth. hatches ... count down to extinction begins at what instar? The answer would be depending on the species with the caveat that there are no hard and fast rules to cannibalism because all mantids are cannibalistic. In my experience, Tenodera sinensis will start cannibalism very early despite being flooded with D.melanogaster. This thread mentions this species, so I am just using it as an example; however, it does seem to somewhat stand off the page with early aggression. We might infer from average hatch sizes being large at around 175 nymphs that immediate nutrition is paramount for the survival of the robust nymphs and that their intense hunger drives them to hunt early. I witness cannibalism at early L-2 with this species.

game of hunger

Not all mantis species reach satiety as easily as others; a common example is that Parasphendale sp. on average, have bigger appetites than, Phyllocrania paradoxa. Hunger can be viewed as the catalyst that spurs the drive to hunt and appetite being that which, dictates the intensity of prey drive aggression during the hunt. In a shared enclosure with the same variables, P. paradoxa would probably fall victim to Parasphendale sp. If you were to switch their appetites, I would hypothesize the opposite conclusion.

I've been "raptored" (B.mendica, Tenodera sp. Heterochaeta sp); however, never bitten. I'll be sure to log a bite report the day that happens; although, I have certain doubt that it will. The best mantis temperament for me would be one that is highly communal within species (shared parenting, etc.) and incredibly aggressive (active stalking, communal hunting) towards prey. To my knowledge, a mantis like this does not exist. That'd be pretty rad, though.

Have fun

 
Mantises can have individual temperaments and their behavior can be affected by what sort of conditions they developed in. Frequent handling makes them more accustomed to the stimuli associated with handling because certain types of repeated stimuli can desensitize their reflexes and insects react primarily by reflex.
It might be that handling them more gets them stressed out and get weak so they do not react so aggressively. Because the ones I handle less are not as weak.

 
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i usually only get bitten by wild caught mantises
Captive bred T. sinensis are much slower or more calm even if I have not handled the captive bred mantids and have not been around them much. Maybe something to do with them being in small terrariums.

 
The thing is that my Chinese mantis and my friend's were raised from birth to adult in captivity and still bit us.

 
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I slowly let the mantis female onto my hand while blowing softly on her to make it seem like my hand was blowing in the wind to make her feel calm. Is that good enough handling for my mantis?

 
Blowing on them can sometimes aggravate them--they can tell what's wind and what's a vertebrate's breath and may feel like some animal's breathing on it and about to take a bite.

 

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