Mantis and spider (Video)

[dgerndt]

Oooh, she fell for a guy far away, huh? Well, you live and you learn. Sounds like a great time in Masai Mara, though.

 

[Mr.Mantid]

Yes Mr. Mantid, but surely you can't say that they don't feel stress? As Phil pointed out with a brilliant example in another thread, mantids, like all creatures, do feel stress. And this stress can shorten their life span. Emotions and pain aside.

Hello MantidLord,

Well I do not know if they can "feel" stress but certainly I would think their bodies can experience the effects of stress so to answer your question, yes, but I was only explaining how invertebrates are probably more along the lines of bacteria when facing aversive stimulus- fleeing away from danger not by an emotional response.

Cheers,

Mr. Mantid

 

[MantidLord]

Okay, I understand what you're saying. I also remember the discussions about whether insects feel emotion (or even pain) in the dreaded vertebrae vs invert threads that have since disappeared from the forum. Basically what I'm getting at, is that what that mantis and spider went through could stress them (or the mantis I should say) to the point to where it affects its health. Whether or not they were mad or afraid is another story.

 

[Mr.Mantid]

Okay, I understand what you're saying. I also remember the discussions about whether insects feel emotion (or even pain) in the dreaded vertebrae vs invert threads that have since disappeared from the forum. Basically what I'm getting at, is that what that mantis and spider went through could stress them (or the mantis I should say) to the point to where it affects its health. Whether or not they were mad or afraid is another story.

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