Mantis identification

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Well last week I found this at my friend house and thought I had lots of time to take pictures and ask what kind it was well today it hatched thank god I started the new cultures....I live in south Florida and it was on a cypress tree.

Sorry the pictures are not that great. :blink:

But i think it might be S. Limbata dose any body have any good ooth or L1 picturs?

I cant upload it how do i get more attchment space?

 

[Emile.Wilson]

Well last week I found this at my friend house and thought I had lots of time to take pictures and ask what kind it was well today it hatched thank god I started the new cultures....I live in south Florida and it was on a cypress tree. Sorry the pictures are not that great. :blink:

But i think it might be S. Limbata dose any body have any good ooth or L1 picturs?

I cant upload it how do i get more attchment space?

You get a photobucket account and post them on the account, then there will be an url that you can use to post your picture, just copy and paste the url to this page

 

[Hypoponera]

You "shouldn't" find wild S. limbata in southern FL. S. gracilipis or S. carolina are more likely your species. Email me your photos and I will try to ID them for you.

 

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So I put some ff in there and they went crazy I separated them in to two containers there are about 40 give or take if anybody else want to see the pictures just pm me your email.

 

[Hypoponera]

Best of luck with your new critters! If they are S. gracilipis, that species is rather rare in the hobby. Quite a few people might like some of them.

 

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Is there a common name?

I can't find any info on S. gracilipis could it be miss spelled?

 

[Hypoponera]

SORRY!!! :blink: I just realized I've been having a senior moment! I not only mis-spelled the name, I have been directing you to the wrong species. I meant S. floridensis, NOT S. gracilipes!!!!! S. floridensis is found in florida while S. gracilipes is found in Arizona. Sorry about the confusion on that!!

S. floridesis is an equally rare species in the hobby and so should be of great interest as well. You will probably not find too much info on your species. But if you are able to keep and breed the species, you can be the one to provide the needed info to other hobbiests.

The only common name I could find is:

Larger Florida mantis

 

[PhilinYuma]

SORRY!!! :blink: I just realized I've been having a senior moment!

Watch out with them "senior moment" jokes, mate, or I'll tell yer old man! :lol:

 

[Peter Clausen]

You could resize your photo to a reasonable size and upload it via the attachment option.

Otherwise, it would be helpful if you describe the shape and size of the egg case. Even color may be helpful.

The hatchling count sounds too low for a wild caught Tenodera sinensis, which is always a good guess anytime somebody finds a wild ootheca.

Might be Stagmomantis carolina, Stagmomantis floridensis, Tenodera angustipennis or among several other species.

Need photos!

Sounds like a neat find!

 

[Hypoponera]

These are the photos Chase sent to me. Not very clear, but a few details are visible. Not a Tenodera sp ooth. Looks like some type of Stegmomantis ooth and nymph to me. The nymph appears to be some what "longer" in body then my S. limbata and S. californica are. So my guess is S. floridensis rather then S. carolina.

 

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Thank you for putting those pictures.

As I’ve said me and technology do not play well together I am like the opposite of most teen’s (sometimes I need to ask my mom for help).

I’ll take some more pictures ill prey i can fix the problem.

Some info on them they are very thin and hold there arms raptor like little L.

 

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Here are some more pictures i figured out how to shrink the photos. :lol:

 

[Katnapper]

Here are some more pictures i figured out how to shrink the photos. :lol:

Now if you could just shrink me down and put me in those photos, maybe I could see the mantids better! Had to tease you. I agree with Hypoponera that it looks like a Stagmomantis Sp. I don't know which, but I wouldn't discount S. carolina. They do occur in Florida from what I've read. And the S. carolina nymphs and ooths that I've had both look similar to those in your pics (from what I can tell).

 

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Well since the photos were such a hit (couch couch katnapper) dose any body have any photos of any of there nymphs Stagmomantis carolina, Stagmomantis floridensis, Tenodera angustipennis or any of the others mentioned?

 

[Katnapper]

Unfortunately I didn't take any pics of the S. carolina nymphs, I don't think. I was too busy photographing other species and caring for a bunch of recent hatchlings at the time.. But I did take some pics of the ooths my adult females laid, and here's a couple of them for reference.

 

[yen_saw]

Ootheca from mantis of same Genus usually looks similar most of the time. It is probably easier to identify the mantis when they are adult. There is a key to differentiate both S. carolina and S. floridensis. See #11 in the following link.

http://entnemdept.ifas.ufl.edu/choate/mantid_key2_03.pdf

 

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Here are some more pictures they have started to molt to l2.

P.S. thank you Katnapper for creating that picture posting guide.

This is not the one that needs to be identified just showing off a good picture finally.

 

[dafke14]

i like the colors it has nice species whatever it may be.

Nice find

 

[hibiscusmile]

Your doing good with your picture taking, and to me it looks like the carolina too.