Mantis Mix Up in Nymph Nursery

[spicey]

But aren't those two mantids the same instar? And one all ready has them.

They are both the same instar, I guess just like kids, even if they are both the same age and same size, one might start showing signs of puberty i.e. facial and underarm hair sooner than another. Maybe the spots are the equivalent in the mantid world... :lol:

QUOTE (ismart @ Aug 22 2009, 04:08 PM) I love being right! Those last two ooth pics are 100% narrow-winged ooths. I have breed this species before the ooths are unmistakable! Even that nymph that is still stuck to the ooth looks more like a chinese nymph than a carolina nymph. Just wait till they get older. The bright orange spot will be easier to see.

Yeah. I missed the first side view of the same ooth. That's no carolina.

I did a google search and found a pic of a Narrow Winged Ooth, I'm about 99% sure that is what I have here that just hatched out this week. Might very well have been one of the ones that hatched a couple months ago, so as my Chinese get a little bigger, I'm gonna start looking for the orange chest spot as well.

 

[MantidLord]

Don't know. They always are for some reason. Nymphs seem very weak and just die.

Oh that sucks. I hope I get lucky.

They are both the same instar, I guess just like kids, even if they are both the same age and same size, one might start showing signs of puberty i.e. facial and underarm hair sooner than another. Maybe the spots are the equivalent in the mantid world... :lol:

lol, I guess you're right. It does look like Mantis religiosa anyway. But they are animals and all individuals vary (even within a species)

 

[hibiscusmile]

yea they look religiosa to me too and so do the ooths, but I am usually wrong :lol:

 

[planetq]

Yeah what Paul said!

You got a mixture of Chinese, Narrow wings and European.

All three of those species have a high mortality rate when they are young, so don't beat your self up too much for the loss.

Out of the three, I think the first picture you have of the golden nymph is a European, even if it doesn't have the black dots. Maybe some just don't... I don't know, but it is definitely not a Chinese, nor a Narrow wing for sure.

Like what Rick said, Europeans have a rounder for-head compared to Chinese or Narrow wings. And they have different patterns along the edges and sides. The differences will be crystal clear once they grow up just a little bit more.

Yeah, like Paul, when I saw those pictures of the ooths, there was no mistaking of what those were.