My new babies ;)

[Rick]

Yeah, at the rep store where I got these beardies, the uros were around the $200 mark. I'd like to go to a rep expo someday. Do they sell inverts there as well?

Wow. I haven't really seen any around here at the shows. I was surprised to hear you were able to trade mantids for those beardies.

 

[sbugir]

Wow. I haven't really seen any around here at the shows. I was surprised to hear you were able to trade mantids for those beardies.

So was I. He seemed very interested. I'm just glad I gave those mantids a home lol.

 

[wero626]

Wow they look great and wow thats a great deal 75 nymohs for 2 dragons wish they would trade over in pet stores but nopey....Those are some cool bearded dragons though i remember when mine was that small know hes a giant but i wanted to let you know that sands really not good for them my pet store guy told me that they cant digest the sand if they accidentaly eat it just thought you should know...I use the pellets like they use for turtles and it works great hes like in a 50 or 60 gallon tank and thats good you got a 75 watt lamp thats excatly what i have so your on a great start i hope they get big and healty =]

 

[Rick]

Wow they look great and wow thats a great deal 75 nymohs for 2 dragons wish they would trade over in pet stores but nopey....Those are some cool bearded dragons though i remember when mine was that small know hes a giant but i wanted to let you know that sands really not good for them my pet store guy told me that they cant digest the sand if they accidentaly eat it just thought you should know...I use the pellets like they use for turtles and it works great hes like in a 50 or 60 gallon tank and thats good you got a 75 watt lamp thats excatly what i have so your on a great start i hope they get big and healty =]

Sand isn't the issue. It is the kind of sand that is the issue. Sand like play sand cannot interlock like regular sand can. That is where the danger lies. What are these pellets you speak of? I specialize in turtles and I am not sure what pellets you're talking about. I can't think of any that I would recommend for any turtle.

 

[sbugir]

Sand isn't the issue. It is the kind of sand that is the issue. Sand like play sand cannot interlock like regular sand can. That is where the danger lies. What are these pellets you speak of? I specialize in turtles and I am not sure what pellets you're talking about. I can't think of any that I would recommend for any turtle.

I think Reptileman is talking about rabbit pellets (the bedding). I've seen rabbit pellets used for reptiles. I will be switching the sand. I need a place to buy some sand, Hardware stores typically sell play send no?

 

[wero626]

I think Reptileman is talking about rabbit pellets (the bedding). I've seen rabbit pellets used for reptiles. I will be switching the sand. I need a place to buy some sand, Hardware stores typically sell play send no?

Yeah your hundred percent right thats what i meant about the pellets and its worked out great so far hes getting huge feeding on big mice trying to get him to eat rats but the sand is something i heard about from various pet stores..They could be wrong but i dont want to take no chance with spike...Man Lemmiwinks you must be so happy about those two beautties =] was the pet store guy happy with the mantids?...And does he sell them or just as pets?

 

[sbugir]

Yeah your hundred percent right thats what i meant about the pellets and its worked out great so far hes getting huge feeding on big mice trying to get him to eat rats but the sand is something i heard about from various pet stores..They could be wrong but i dont want to take no chance with spike...Man Lemmiwinks you must be so happy about those two beautties =] was the pet store guy happy with the mantids?...And does he sell them or just as pets?

Yeah, aren't mice too fatty for them? Yeah, I'm so happy haha! He sells the mantids, it's where I got my first chinese nymph...for $5... still I never knew there were sites like this lol. I miss that nymph . But yeah, I'll be switching the substrate soon. I'm not too worried as I typically feed them in a different container.

 

[Rick]

Yeah, aren't mice too fatty for them? Yeah, I'm so happy haha! He sells the mantids, it's where I got my first chinese nymph...for $5... still I never knew there were sites like this lol. I miss that nymph . But yeah, I'll be switching the substrate soon. I'm not too worried as I typically feed them in a different container.

Neither of you should get care advice from a pet store. Vast majority of them have no clue. You can get the play sand at lowes or home depot. Make sure it says play sand. That will not cause impaction. Pool sand also works and has an attractive color to it. Avoid any pet store sand or calci sand.

Not sure what he mean't about the mice. I wouldn't feed them as a staple to either a beardy or a turtle.

 

[sbugir]

Neither of you should get care advice from a pet store. Vast majority of them have no clue. You can get the play sand at lowes or home depot. Make sure it says play sand. That will not cause impaction. Pool sand also works and has an attractive color to it. Avoid any pet store sand or calci sand. Not sure what he mean't about the mice. I wouldn't feed them as a staple to either a beardy or a turtle.

Yeah, pet store advice does suck. Although my Rep Specialist store manager is actually decent in terms of advice. Obviously he has no clue in terms of trading though . I'll be getting play sand soon. I've been feeding them separately out of the sand tank to avoid impaction. Greens however are still fed in the tank on a paper towel or plate not touching the sand.

Rick, typically how much is play sand? And I'll pick some up tomorrow after I get Rep Vitamins/Calcium. Any suggestions which brand? They say a 100:10:1 Vitamin ratio is good for beardies. That being D:E:A I believe. Apparently ZooMed Vitamins have a 600:1:1 ratio which is pretty dangerous according to the Beardie forum.

 

[Rick]

Yeah, pet store advice does suck. Although my Rep Specialist store manager is actually decent in terms of advice. Obviously he has no clue in terms of trading though . I'll be getting play sand soon. I've been feeding them separately out of the sand tank to avoid impaction. Greens however are still fed in the tank on a paper towel or plate not touching the sand. Rick, typically how much is play sand? And I'll pick some up tomorrow after I get Rep Vitamins/Calcium. Any suggestions which brand? They say a 100:10:1 Vitamin ratio is good for beardies. That being D:E:A I believe. Apparently ZooMed Vitamins have a 600:1:1 ratio which is pretty dangerous according to the Beardie forum.

Play sand is cheap. Few dollars for a fifty pound bag is what I recall. I use Minerall mixed 50/50 with bee pollen and reptivite. A mixture of rep cal and reptivite is also ok. Be sure to get a formula with D3 unless they will be exposed to sunlight. Sometimes it is called an indoor formula. I only dust my uros food once a week with the mixture but that is mainly because I have the good light that probably gives him most of what he needs. I still wouldn't dust it more than three times a week though.

Here is a good site for lighting: http://www.uvguide.co.uk/index.htm

 

[sbugir]

Play sand is cheap. Few dollars for a fifty pound bag is what I recall. I use Minerall mixed 50/50 with bee pollen and reptivite. A mixture of rep cal and reptivite is also ok. Be sure to get a formula with D3 unless they will be exposed to sunlight. Sometimes it is called an indoor formula. I only dust my uros food once a week with the mixture but that is mainly because I have the good light that probably gives him most of what he needs. I still wouldn't dust it more than three times a week though.Here is a good site for lighting: http://www.uvguide.co.uk/index.htm

Thanks, the lighting I have down I think. Previous page I believe you asked me what lights I have lol. Good to hear about the sand and vitamins. Gotta find a place to keep 50lbs of sound lol

I might just purchase some non-adhesive shelf liner as well. We'll see

 

[Rick]

Thanks, the lighting I have down I think. Previous page I believe you asked me what lights I have lol. Good to hear about the sand and vitamins. Gotta find a place to keep 50lbs of sound lol I might just purchase some non-adhesive shelf liner as well. We'll see

When I had leopard geckos I had slate tile cut to fit the bottom of the tank. That works well too. I use sand for my uro because they like to dig.

 

[sbugir]

When I had leopard geckos I had slate tile cut to fit the bottom of the tank. That works well too. I use sand for my uro because they like to dig.

Wouldn't the slate be way too hot? (W/ a heat lamp of course )

 

[Rick]

Wouldn't the slate be way too hot? (W/ a heat lamp of course )

It wasn't. Depends on the animal. The basking spot for my uro is 130+ degrees. They love it very hot. Not sure what temps for beardies are though off the top of my head.

 

[sbugir]

It wasn't. Depends on the animal. The basking spot for my uro is 130+ degrees. They love it very hot. Not sure what temps for beardies are though off the top of my head.

Ahh, beardies are about 115 max.

 

[Davedood]

Ahh, beardies are about 115 max.

I have about 30 Red/Orange/Yellow baby bearded dragon babbies. I got about 100 deg for the basking spot while they are very small, when older and larger I got about 115-120. I have used sand however, I highly recomend using Wheat Bran. It's very cheap and clumps up well when they poop. It has no impaction risks at all. (Also great with keeping superworms in). In the long run the best bulb you can get for them is Mercury Vapor. I'd wait till they get a little bigger. They have 100 watt mercury vapor bulbs but you need abit larger cage when using them, so the whole cage doesn't get too hot. should have the oposite end of the cage in the 80's for thermal regulation. I feed mine collard greens and yellow squash (shredded). I also keep Frilled dragons, Green Basilisks, water dragons, Crested gecko's and tree frogs.

Dave

 

[Davedood]

Forgot to say that Mercury Vapor bulbs provide the best amount of UVB/UVA and heat all in 1 bulb. It's nice cause it eliminates having to use two bulbs for UVA and UVB.

 

[sbugir]

I have about 30 Red/Orange/Yellow baby bearded dragon babbies. I got about 100 deg for the basking spot while they are very small, when older and larger I got about 115-120. I have used sand however, I highly recomend using Wheat Bran. It's very cheap and clumps up well when they poop. It has no impaction risks at all. (Also great with keeping superworms in). In the long run the best bulb you can get for them is Mercury Vapor. I'd wait till they get a little bigger. They have 100 watt mercury vapor bulbs but you need abit larger cage when using them, so the whole cage doesn't get too hot. should have the oposite end of the cage in the 80's for thermal regulation. I feed mine collard greens and yellow squash (shredded). I also keep Frilled dragons, Green Basilisks, water dragons, Crested gecko's and tree frogs.Dave

Hey Dave,

I spoke to you about your frilleds . (Very nice Youtube vids btw)

Wheat bran is actually a great idea, except doesn't it have a high fiber and phosphorus content? I'll be getting a new bulb eventually, but I think they'll be alright for now.

 

[sbugir]

Well I switched to play sand sifted 3 times... hard work lol. Will see how it goes. I'm worried about one of them. He hasn't eaten for over 5 days hopefully it's still just stress :S

 

[Rick]

Well I switched to play sand sifted 3 times... hard work lol. Will see how it goes. I'm worried about one of them. He hasn't eaten for over 5 days hopefully it's still just stress :S

You didn't need to sift it silly. :lol: He is right on the mv bulb. I have powersun but really wanted the Mega Ray but nobody had them. They are pricey but good, and they last a long time.