Morpheus uk
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If thats the case everyone get over to my house we'll get to the nearest mall 
No more snow in moscow... ever.
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DeadInTheBasement
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sounds great...i could go for some looting durring a zombie infestation or even looting without the zombie infestation
PhilinYuma
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Shame, shame, shame on you, Superfreak,
Shame first, as the the Dutch lad pointed out, for not watching the American video on the subject. True, the speaker was a moron who speaks no Russian and lame, offensive English (I strongly object to little boys referring to me as "people") while you are fluent in both. (I'm not sure that your fluency in spoken and written Russian has ever come up on the forum, though you have mentioned a familiarity with Polish and Ukrainian, but where do folks think that yr Christian name comes from, Costa Rica?).
Shame second, on your lack of sympathy for the "villages or something" around Moscow. I don't know about the Dutch, but the vast majority of Americans could not find Moscow on a map of Russia, so it's particularly touching that they should be concerned about the fate of the adjacent "villages or something." I've never been to Moscow, but if it's anything like St Petersburg, it is surrounded by grey, dreary suburbs that might improve with a dusting of a few feet of snow.
Shame third, on not speaking out against a scheme which as our Michigan member points out, "the levels may probably will rise but may also be contaminated with the chemicals and which can poison plants,animals and people!" Admittedly, I'm not exactly sure what that means, but I don't think that it can be a Good Thing. Americans are particularly aware of this technology, because States like Nevada spend millions of dollars to use it every year to increase their rainfall. They use silver iodide, which has been used, I think, for at least half a century. I suspect, though, that the frugal Russians are more likely to use dry ice, and we all know how lethal carbon dioxide is (or is that carbon monoxide? I'm sure that they are very similar).
I hope that you take this advice to heart, my good friend, and next time you feel the urge to make a sensible comment in an inane thread, I trust that you will think twice.
ismart
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I will be sure to bring my pregnant wife too! :lol:If thats the case everyone get over to my house we'll get to the nearest mall
Wait... what does this have to do with snow in Moscow? Oh yeah, they will eat the chemically laden snow and turn into zombies! I cant wait!
Morpheus uk
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Then its a plan, we'll all meet up arounding the tools and gardening equipment section
DeadInTheBasement
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meh...ill be in the shoes and bath store ...me and zombies have a understanding(they dont get to eat brains until my tummy is full) so ill be ok alone
the moscow goverment will regret doing this when they actually realise spraying those chemicals will cause michael jackson to rise and once again do thriller as a zombie....meh we all know he faked his death so it will have to be a costume
...me and zombies have a understanding(they dont get to eat brains until my tummy is full) so ill be ok alonethe moscow goverment will regret doing this when they actually realise spraying those chemicals will cause michael jackson to rise and once again do thriller as a zombie....meh we all know he faked his death so it will have to be a costume
idolomantis
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Shall i bring the chainsaws and flamethrowers?Then its a plan, we'll all meet up arounding the tools and gardening equipment section
PhilinYuma
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No, no! M.J. didn't fake his death, he faked being alive! He was actually a zombie when did Thriller the first time. If you look closely you'll see that they had to fake his shadow (or is that vampires? It's pretty much the same thing on a dark night in AZ!).meh...ill be in the shoes and bath store
Morpheus uk
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The harmful effects of silver iodide are insidious.(3) Yet, according to the web site of the PGCD, the effects are so minimized that the following is stated: “The concentration of iodide in iodized salt used on food is far above the concentration found in rainwater from a seeded cloud.”(4) In addition, in early December of 2002, at the Amarillo meeting jointly conducted by the Panhandle Groundwater and the North Plains Groundwater Conservation Districts, one representative stated that silver iodide was good for the heart. In a private conversation, another explained that silver miners live longer. Iodized salt may seem benign; however, some states such as Colorado have outlawed the use of salting icy roads.(5) Among harmful effects, salt is toxic to the water and land.(5)
The Office of Environment, Health and Safety, UC Berkeley, rates silver iodide as a Class C, non-soluble, inorganic, hazardous chemical that pollutes water and soil.(8) It has been found to be highly toxic to fish, livestock and humans.(6,7,8,9) Numerous medical articles demonstrate that humans absorb silver iodide through the lungs, nose, skin, and GI tract.(7,8,9) Mild toxicity can cause GI irritation, renal and pulmonary lesions, and mild argyria (blue or black discoloration of the skin). Severe toxicity can result in hemorrhagic gastroenteritis, shock, enlarged heart, severe argyria, and death by respiratory depression.(8)
Moreover, a key manufacturer of silver iodide for weather modification, Deepwater Chemicals, warns of potential health effects of silver iodide in their Material Safety Data Sheet as follows:
Chronic Exposure/Target Organs: Chronic ingestion of iodides may produce “iodism”, which may be manifested by skin rash, running nose, headache and irritation of the mucous membranes. Weakness, anemia, loss of weight and general depression may also occur. Chronic inhalation or ingestion may cause argyria characterized by blue-gray discoloration of the eyes, skin and mucous membranes. Chronic skin contact may cause permanent discoloration of the skin.(10)
Under the guidelines of the Clean Water Act by the EPA, silver iodide is considered a hazardous substance, a priority pollutant, and as a toxic pollutant.(10) Some industries have learned this all too well.
Obviously the cloud-after-cloud, year-after-year use of cloud seeding could lead to an insidious, cumulative effect. Especially when the same area is repeatedly seeded. If the toxicity manifests in pollution and illnesses, the effects may not be reversible. At this point, the PGCD monitoring of silver iodide toxicity is so small as to be nonexistent and flawed. C.E. Williams states, “water samples taken after rain from seeded clouds have revealed no silver iodide.”(11) This is misleading.
According to the PGCD, “Every year, two viable samples of rainwater must be sent to a laboratory for analysis and in return forwarded to TNRCC to ensure that the water is not contaminating the area.”(4) This is faulty sampling and testing over a seven county area. If PGCD can not control where the seeded clouds dumps water, how can they take only two rain samples per year to test for silver concentrates of the clouds they seeded? At least it is an admission that silver toxicity is an issue. Such misleading statements based on faulty data are not uncommon to the PGCD. In 2001, rainfall amounts were grossly overinflated in multiple rain gauges.(2,11) Such overstatements are to prop up the benefits of their program while denying the adverse effects.
Storm, Rick. "Is Cloud Seeding Harmful." Home on the Ranches. 26 Dec. 2002. Web. 20 Oct. 2009. <http://www.ranches.org/cloudSeedingHarmful.htm>.
Dry ice i safer but, I still am aganst this. This has been tryed with rain but not snow.
The Office of Environment, Health and Safety, UC Berkeley, rates silver iodide as a Class C, non-soluble, inorganic, hazardous chemical that pollutes water and soil.(8) It has been found to be highly toxic to fish, livestock and humans.(6,7,8,9) Numerous medical articles demonstrate that humans absorb silver iodide through the lungs, nose, skin, and GI tract.(7,8,9) Mild toxicity can cause GI irritation, renal and pulmonary lesions, and mild argyria (blue or black discoloration of the skin). Severe toxicity can result in hemorrhagic gastroenteritis, shock, enlarged heart, severe argyria, and death by respiratory depression.(8)
Moreover, a key manufacturer of silver iodide for weather modification, Deepwater Chemicals, warns of potential health effects of silver iodide in their Material Safety Data Sheet as follows:
Chronic Exposure/Target Organs: Chronic ingestion of iodides may produce “iodism”, which may be manifested by skin rash, running nose, headache and irritation of the mucous membranes. Weakness, anemia, loss of weight and general depression may also occur. Chronic inhalation or ingestion may cause argyria characterized by blue-gray discoloration of the eyes, skin and mucous membranes. Chronic skin contact may cause permanent discoloration of the skin.(10)
Under the guidelines of the Clean Water Act by the EPA, silver iodide is considered a hazardous substance, a priority pollutant, and as a toxic pollutant.(10) Some industries have learned this all too well.
Obviously the cloud-after-cloud, year-after-year use of cloud seeding could lead to an insidious, cumulative effect. Especially when the same area is repeatedly seeded. If the toxicity manifests in pollution and illnesses, the effects may not be reversible. At this point, the PGCD monitoring of silver iodide toxicity is so small as to be nonexistent and flawed. C.E. Williams states, “water samples taken after rain from seeded clouds have revealed no silver iodide.”(11) This is misleading.
According to the PGCD, “Every year, two viable samples of rainwater must be sent to a laboratory for analysis and in return forwarded to TNRCC to ensure that the water is not contaminating the area.”(4) This is faulty sampling and testing over a seven county area. If PGCD can not control where the seeded clouds dumps water, how can they take only two rain samples per year to test for silver concentrates of the clouds they seeded? At least it is an admission that silver toxicity is an issue. Such misleading statements based on faulty data are not uncommon to the PGCD. In 2001, rainfall amounts were grossly overinflated in multiple rain gauges.(2,11) Such overstatements are to prop up the benefits of their program while denying the adverse effects.
Storm, Rick. "Is Cloud Seeding Harmful." Home on the Ranches. 26 Dec. 2002. Web. 20 Oct. 2009. <http://www.ranches.org/cloudSeedingHarmful.htm>.
Dry ice i safer but, I still am aganst this. This has been tryed with rain but not snow.
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MantidLord
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Wow, I had no idea that this stupid state used that to increase rainfall. Doesn't seem to be working. Anyway, I have one thing to say about all this:
New World Order.
New World Order.
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The actions of corrupt corperations and goverments mistaken for new world order, equally as bad.
Sorry for being off topic.
There is a problem with this, snow insulates warmth, ans dont forget the unatrully thick snow in the suburbs.
Buildings and the enviroment will get impacted negitivally. Plants freeze to death in Moscow while Plants are smothered in the suburbs.
