Reasons for ornamental dimorphism?

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Sexual dimorphism is an interesting topic to discuss. Let me jump in here!

According to these documents:

http://www.jstor.org/stable/3222493

http://eprints.lib.hokudai.ac.jp/dspace/bitstream/2115/12556/1/10(1)_p1-27.pdf

Male mantids have 27 chromosomes while females have 28, at least in Mantis religiosa. Not only that, but there appears to be a good size discrepancy in what we may call the "sexual" chromosomes (similar to the X and Y chromosomes of humans and mammals).

The extra chromosomes that females possess, plus the length discrepancy in the sexual chromosomes, may account for the sexual dimorphism - including the crests and necklaces discussed above. We cannot discount the possibility that males and females may have the same genes for these features, but males express some genes while females express others. Chromosomal differences and gene expression likely account for the observed sexual dimorphism.

Another interesting point that I'd like to add is that plants may undergo mutations that double their chromosome number (polyploidy). Sometimes this leads to healthier, more robust plants and expresses new traits. It may also lead to sterility. For example, many of the fruits (often seedless due to sterility from polyploidy) we purchase at markets today have this condition, like bananas and watermelons. So, for better plants and better fruits, more chromososmes are better for plants. This page summarizes these facts quite nicely: http://assoc.garden.org/courseweb/course2/week3/page18.htm

While more chromosomes are better for plants, we can't necessarily say the same for all animals. The YY sex chromosome condition in humans leads to natural abortion (not viable, you need that X chromosome for vital functions), while the X, XXX and XXY conditions produce developmental defects, even sterility, but still develop into living human beings.

SO the point is that it's hard to tell for sure without thorough genetic analysis, but the difference in features likely factors down to sex chromosomes and gene expression, while size may also be influenced by the chromosome count itself.

And one last note... things get really interesting once you start asking what the deal is with the Brunner's mantis, which is self-fertile and births no males. Or when you try to interbreed mantids. There may also be mantids with more or fewer chromosomes than Mantis religiosa. Oh, the science of genetics! So much to be explored and unlocked!


 
Sexual dimorphism is an interesting topic to discuss. Let me jump in here!

According to these documents:

http://www.jstor.org/stable/3222493

http://eprints.lib.hokudai.ac.jp/dspace/bitstream/2115/12556/1/10(1)_p1-27.pdf

Male mantids have 27 chromosomes while females have 28, at least in Mantis religiosa. Not only that, but there appears to be a good size discrepancy in what we may call the "sexual" chromosomes (similar to the X and Y chromosomes of humans and mammals).

The extra chromosomes that females possess, plus the length discrepancy in the sexual chromosomes, may account for the sexual dimorphism - including the crests and necklaces discussed above. We cannot discount the possibility that males and females may have the same genes for these features, but males express some genes while females express others. Chromosomal differences and gene expression likely account for the observed sexual dimorphism.

Another interesting point that I'd like to add is that plants may undergo mutations that double their chromosome number (polyploidy). Sometimes this leads to healthier, more robust plants and expresses new traits. It may also lead to sterility. For example, many of the fruits (often seedless due to sterility from polyploidy) we purchase at markets today have this condition, like bananas and watermelons. So, for better plants and better fruits, more chromososmes are better for plants. This page summarizes these facts quite nicely: http://assoc.garden.org/courseweb/course2/week3/page18.htm

While more chromosomes are better for plants, we can't necessarily say the same for all animals. The YY sex chromosome condition in humans leads to natural abortion (not viable, you need that X chromosome for vital functions), while the X, XXX and XXY conditions produce developmental defects, even sterility, but still develop into living human beings.

SO the point is that it's hard to tell for sure without thorough genetic analysis, but the difference in features likely factors down to sex chromosomes and gene expression, while size may also be influenced by the chromosome count itself.

And one last note... things get really interesting once you start asking what the deal is with the Brunner's mantis, which is self-fertile and births no males. Or when you try to interbreed mantids. There may also be mantids with more or fewer chromosomes than Mantis religiosa. Oh, the science of genetics! So much to be explored and unlocked!
all very well said!!!!

 
No? "Sexual dimorphism is a phenotypic difference between males and females of the same species. Examples of such differences include differences in morphology, size, ornamentation and behavior."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_dimorphism

Sounds like it to me.
Maybe technically the genitalia could be considered phenotypic differences, but is more like morphological differences. Generally when you think of sexual dimorphism you are talking about size, color, ornamentation, etc.

Animals with horns, antlers, or other sexual dimorphic characters are providing an honest signal of good genetic quality to their mates in many cases. Many male birds are brightly colored or have ornaments. These traits serve to signal to their mates that they are of good genetic quality, but they come at a cost. It takes a lot of resources to grow these traits. It also comes at the cost of increased predation since these individuals often are hindered by their sexual traits and stand out more.

How all this applies to mantids is unknown to me. I haven't seen any studies on it. But remember that sperm are cheap while eggs are not. Female mantids are much larger probably due to the fact that being larger means they are able to carry more eggs and are able to capture larger prey to provide nutrition for those eggs.

I took a class on animal behavior and we spent considerable time on sexual selection. It is quite fascinating.

 
In insects, normally the gender that invests more is the larger one. Usually it is the female for reasons outline above, but in species where males compete physically for females (e. g. stag and rhinoceros beetles), the males are larger. In mantids, the females are more sedentary and heavier since they carry the eggs, and males are smaller and lighter since they have to be mobile to find the sedentary females. So far so good.

Not every morphological feature is subject to sexual selection though. Some color or morphology patterns may be more influenced by camouflage or mimicry needs. Usually, the female (and nymphs) are better camouflaged, that is why many females have short wings or no wings in the first place. The green band on the pronotum in Hymenopus helps to break up the body outline in nymphs and is just retained in the more sedentary females (even though they have fully functional wings, females fly much less than males in this species). Males are mobile and usually trade camouflage for better escape behavior (since wings may render camouflage less effective). Hymenopus males are generally more darker than females, with more brown color patterns, so in this case a green band may not be effective, at least not more effective that the brown one they have.

Horns and the like are also smaller in males (e. g. Empusids, Ceratocrania, Zoolea), as they may influence aerodynamic properties.

 
Maybe technically the genitalia could be considered phenotypic differences, but is more like morphological differences. Generally when you think of sexual dimorphism you are talking about size, color, ornamentation, etc.

Animals with horns, antlers, or other sexual dimorphic characters are providing an honest signal of good genetic quality to their mates in many cases. Many male birds are brightly colored or have ornaments. These traits serve to signal to their mates that they are of good genetic quality, but they come at a cost. It takes a lot of resources to grow these traits. It also comes at the cost of increased predation since these individuals often are hindered by their sexual traits and stand out more.

How all this applies to mantids is unknown to me. I haven't seen any studies on it. But remember that sperm are cheap while eggs are not. Female mantids are much larger probably due to the fact that being larger means they are able to carry more eggs and are able to capture larger prey to provide nutrition for those eggs.

I took a class on animal behavior and we spent considerable time on sexual selection. It is quite fascinating.
I think that the female is the object of sexual selection in mantids. The male has to risk his life with every mating. I think that this overcomes the differential cost in eggs and sperm.

 
I think that the female is the object of sexual selection in mantids. The male has to risk his life with every mating. I think that this overcomes the differential cost in eggs and sperm.
I agree with this, but we do see clear sexually-selected traits in the males as well. The long wings and reduced abdomen of many species' males certainly makes them more mobile, while females have reduced wings and the larger abdomen (and larger body in general) because the extra weight makes flying more impractical and even dangerous. And while being more mobile allows males to find females more effectively (via pheromones), it also comes with the risk of falling victim to predators like birds. So we do see some sexual selection in males, even though the males seem more dispensable in general, while females can "afford" more of these sexually-exclusive traits due to their size, sedentary lifestyle, and extra chromosomal room/expression.

 
I agree with this, but we do see clear sexually-selected traits in the males as well. The long wings and reduced abdomen of many species' males certainly makes them more mobile, while females have reduced wings and the larger abdomen (and larger body in general) because the extra weight makes flying more impractical and even dangerous. And while being more mobile allows males to find females more effectively (via pheromones), it also comes with the risk of falling victim to predators like birds. So we do see some sexual selection in males, even though the males seem more dispensable in general, while females can "afford" more of these sexually-exclusive traits due to their size, sedentary lifestyle, and extra chromosomal room/expression.
They are more dispensable than females. One male can fertilize every egg in a female, or many females actually.

 
I call this photo 'Sexual Dimorphism' when I show it to people:

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Most people are shocked that the male is that much smaller than the female.

 
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