My european mantis died today, but last night he looked like he was having a seizure. I don't know what happened there.
Seizures?
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idolomantis
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HUH what? i never heard of a mantis having a seizure..
What happened to him, go in the details .. what did you see?
What happened to him, go in the details .. what did you see?
He was on the floor of the cage, and he was quivering like he was kissing the floor of the cage rapidly.
ABbuggin
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It was just dieing.
why does this happen to a random L4 or L5 male mantis nymph I have every once in a while?! I was planning on giving that mantis away!!!
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d17oug18
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i dont know if you remember this but mantis have 2 brains, what your seeing is the second brain dieing(the bodies brain). Or it could just be ramdom movements lol.why does this happen to a random L4 or L5 male mantis nymph I have every once in a while?! I was planning on giving that mantis away!!!
kakistos
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They do not have two brains, that's just nonsense.
It was just dying... unsynchronized firing of dying neurons resulting in involuntairy movements without direction. It happens a lot when mantids die.
They have 2 brains. How can a male mate with a female if he looses his head? He can't unless he has another brain to keep him alive! Without a brain the body can't function.
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Gosh! Some people talk out of their arse! <_< Insects have brains in their heads but they also have neuronal clumps in each segment of their body called ganglia. Ganglia are like pseudo-brains, in layman's terms. Thus, although decapitation essentially means the insect will die, they still have electrochemical signals being conducted within the body, as Kakistos mentioned earlier. In fact, some research states that decapitating a mating male abolishes its inhibitory signals, thus making it a dedicated lover.
Also, I had a case where a female ate a male & the tip of the male's abdomen was still squirming even though that was the only thing remaining of him :blink: So, pish-posh to the '2 brain theory.'
Ever seen an allegedy dead fish skip around on the barbie? Electrochemical signalling. It's very dead
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Gosh! Some people talk out of their arse! <_< Insects have brains in their heads but they also have neuronal clumps in each segment of their body called ganglia. Ganglia are like pseudo-brains, in layman's terms. Thus, although decapitation essentially means the insect will die, they still have electrochemical signals being conducted within the body, as Kakistos mentioned earlier. In fact, some research states that decapitating a mating male abolishes its inhibitory signals, thus making it a dedicated lover.
Also, I had a case where a female ate a male & the tip of the male's abdomen was still squirming even though that was the only thing remaining of him :blink: So, pish-posh to the '2 brain theory.'Ever seen an allegedy dead fish skip around on the barbie? Electrochemical signalling. It's very dead
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A second brain keeps the body functioning long enough for the male to transfer a few spermetaphores (sacks full of sperm, dissection reveals egg like things inside the male's abdomen) into the female. The second brain begins to function when the other brain shuts down (in the case of the female eating it) and can keep the male going for over 16 hours.
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YOU HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT!!!
What sources you are using? Not your arse I hope?
Alex, it's true. You do not know what you are talking about. And furthermore, most of the statements and advice I have seen you give are not only incorrect, they are dreadfully incorrect. But you insist on thinking you know it all. Your unsound statements are not just annoying; I think they mar the credibility of this forum. I wish you would take your unsubstantiated advice and pretentious attitude to your own forum, not here.
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superfreak
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agent a, before this turns any more heated, i recommend you read james' first post again, else find an entomology book not aimed at primary-schoolers. if youre going to make statements like that i recommend referencing them.
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ABbuggin
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I've been wanting to say the same thing, but didn't know how to say it. Don't think it could of been said better than how Kat did. B)
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I'm sorry if I've hurt your feelings, Alex... that is not my intention. But I have tried to be nice, supportive, and give you direction for learning here. And you've been asked to research your information before posting things as fact. But you continue to keep posting off-the-wall and downright bad "information," and I've had enough. :angry:
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ABbuggin
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I doubt it will, this forum isn't like a few other ones that I frequent where it seems that Nazis run the place. <_<
d17oug18
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i would like it to be known that i just repeated what i heard on TV lol i have no research at all and thank you for correcting my ignorance. I understood what jameslongo said and glad to hear it. I know what i say is new born advice lol and ill try to keep my mouth shut when i dont know something from personal expierence, i just like being active in the forum ^_^
