I just think that that is a logical explination for a second brain.
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idolomantis
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If i were you i'd ask for the reality.
superfreak
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*claps*
it does seem like alex is living in his dream world, where bullies are shamed on internet forums and things with bilateral symmetry and a directional sensory cluster have two brains.... do the unicorns there eat rainbows and poop butterflies?
d17oug18
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Im the one that started on the "2 brain" idea, which i thought was true becuase thats what all TV shows and insect books say(not the mantis book), i repeated only what was published lol oh well, i realize you guys arent talking about me just sayin its easy to confuse the 2 brain idea, thats what i thought until this thread.*claps*it does seem like alex is living in his dream world, where bullies are shamed on internet forums and things with bilateral symmetry and a directional sensory cluster have two brains.... do the unicorns there eat rainbows and poop butterflies?
PhilinYuma
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Well, that'll teach me to go on vacation. Look at the fun I've been missing!
Insects have a nerve cord that stretches from the front of the head capsule (tentorium) to close to the tip of the abdomen. They don't have a "brain" in the sense that mamals, or any other vertebrates, have one, but at intervals along the cord are a series of nerve centers or ganglia. At the front tip of the chord are three fused ganglia called the brain, solely by analogy to the brain of a vertebrate.
The head consists of six (or seven according to some sources) fused segments, and the brain serves the first three of these, which include the eyes and the antennae. The nerve cord then passes round the tubular esophagus and broadens into three more fused ganglia, called the subesophageal ganglion, still in the tentorium, which serve the other three segments. Since both fused sets of ganglia occupy the tentorium and each serves three segments of the head, I can see, Doug, how someone on TV might have called the subesophogeal ganglion a "second brain."
Alas, though, Alex, when a male loses its head, it loses both "brains," so your theory is stillborn. Also, as Superfreak as pointed out in the past, loss of the brain "disinhibits" (cf) the male's copulatory urge, and he can remain in copulation for hours after losing his head. As you grow older, you will learn that even the human brain can inhibit the act of insemination and is part of something called "stamina."
I rooted around and found a nice little article on the nervous sytem for you. When you click on a word printed in blue in the text, the apropriate part of the nervous system lights up. Is that cool or what?
http://www.cals.ncsu.edu/course/ent425/tut...l/nerves.html#2
Look particularly at the last paragraph, on the stomodaeal nervous system.
Insects have a nerve cord that stretches from the front of the head capsule (tentorium) to close to the tip of the abdomen. They don't have a "brain" in the sense that mamals, or any other vertebrates, have one, but at intervals along the cord are a series of nerve centers or ganglia. At the front tip of the chord are three fused ganglia called the brain, solely by analogy to the brain of a vertebrate.
The head consists of six (or seven according to some sources) fused segments, and the brain serves the first three of these, which include the eyes and the antennae. The nerve cord then passes round the tubular esophagus and broadens into three more fused ganglia, called the subesophageal ganglion, still in the tentorium, which serve the other three segments. Since both fused sets of ganglia occupy the tentorium and each serves three segments of the head, I can see, Doug, how someone on TV might have called the subesophogeal ganglion a "second brain."
Alas, though, Alex, when a male loses its head, it loses both "brains," so your theory is stillborn. Also, as Superfreak as pointed out in the past, loss of the brain "disinhibits" (cf) the male's copulatory urge, and he can remain in copulation for hours after losing his head. As you grow older, you will learn that even the human brain can inhibit the act of insemination and is part of something called "stamina."
I rooted around and found a nice little article on the nervous sytem for you. When you click on a word printed in blue in the text, the apropriate part of the nervous system lights up. Is that cool or what?
http://www.cals.ncsu.edu/course/ent425/tut...l/nerves.html#2
Look particularly at the last paragraph, on the stomodaeal nervous system.
revmdn
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Good to have ya back Phil, I needed that.
PhilinYuma
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Personally, I'm more inclined to go with the nice old guy who wrote that brilliant post #24. He even gives a URL for a website written in Grownup that identifies the "second brain" as the subesophageal ganglion. Perhaps, in yr eagerness to tell us about the discovery channel program, you missed it. Warmly recommended.
My budwing did this wierd headbanging thing for like 1 min the other day.. then was weak when it woke up out of that trance....
been fine ever since
Opivy
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Alex dude... Take the advice! It will do you good to just listen for once instead of trying to give your posts credibility. It seems like you always have to come back with a rebuttal of some sort.
PhilinYuma
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Guess I should point out, Opivy -- before Alex does! -- that like a number of us, you overlooked the fact that new member Ghozt "resurrected" a number of old posts, today. Alex's comment was, in fact made last July.
Yes, I know
Opivy
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Ohh! My apologies. I noticed that he's been better with what I mentioned - I thought it started again.
BAD GHOZT!!!
BAD GHOZT!!!
Hey Phil, thanks for the help, don't know what I would do without you!
Opivy
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LMAO! @Katnapper
I have a group therapist I see every Friday, that's where I've been since my post in the topic aabout that grass mantis.
