Tawainese Mantids _ a test_Odontomantis planiceps

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I know the correct spelling, hehehe - I don't know where that came from. Probably an imp rotated the "W" and made it "M"!

Anyway - someone will tell me how many molts these mantids go through?

 
I know the correct spelling, hehehe - I don't know where that came from.
Lol. I knew you did.... ;)

Do you have ant mantids? Is it normal for ants to be subadult at the same time as a female, or does a female molt twice after first getting little budwings?

 
It's a male right? I'm trying to sex mine, and it looks like one has 7 segments, and another 8. :huh: I was using a magnifying glass too. Plus, is it normal for male and female to be subadult at the same time?
Yes it is a subadult male.

Well, as you americans are the only ones using F, perhaps you should do the math, when posting on a site with multinational members ?
80F-85F = ~27C - 29C. There, happy Mom? :p

Yes, how many molts does an ant mantis have? It's been less than a month, and mine are subadult.
Male needs only 6 and female 7 (I could be wrong ;) ), as usual, it takes longer for a subadult to mature as more time is needed to develop wing and a mature sexual organ. Again, the period between subadult and adult is very much depend on temperature and food supply.

 
Yes it is a subadult male.80F-85F = ~27C - 29C. There, happy Mom? :p

Male needs only 6 and female 7 (I could be wrong ;) ), as usual, it takes longer for a subadult to mature as more time is needed to develop wing and a mature sexual organ. Again, the period between subadult and adult is very much depend on temperature and food supply.
Thanks. Wow, the female in question molted again. (3 days after he last molt???I was wondeing how she grew bigger when it was three days afterwards, until I saw a hanging skin..... :lol: ) She is now a true subadult, with more noticable wings.

 
Oops, I double posted, and I can't delete this, so, yay, i have two males and a female!!!!

 
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Yes, this is all nice, but we can see the difference in the pictures posted here.

I would really like to know if I have to delay the male's moults, or If it don't matter at all.

 
No need to purposely slow down the male, as subadult female for this species doesn't take a long time to moult into adult, unlike other species like orchid mantis where subadult female can take a month or more to moult into adult.

 
Yeah, but H. Coronatus has a big difference between the number of moults between male and a female - plus, the male lives for only a couple of weeks...

I would still like to know after which moult they will be adult - it will make some things easier for me...

BTW - my Odomantids are getting ready for their second moult - I cannot wait until that happens.

 
Yeah, but H. Coronatus has a big difference between the number of moults between male and a female - plus, the male lives for only a couple of weeks...I would still like to know after which moult they will be adult - it will make some things easier for me...

BTW - my Odomantids are getting ready for their second moult - I cannot wait until that happens.
Adult male orchid mantis lives longer than 2 weeks!! Anyway, i am just using H. Coronatus as an example comparing with the time a subadult female takes moulting into adult. You really don't have to worry about the moulting differences between both male and female of this species (Odontomantis) they will breed alright.

 
Right, here is the thing...

As nymphs they were somewhat reluctant when it came to hunt fruit flies - it took two weeks for them to finally moult.

After the first mould they started to be more eager to hunt fruit flies, but only small ones - and they sometimes were scared by aphids, which was strange to me.

Then they moulted and became even more agressive hunters, tackled D. Hydei pretty well...

But now some of them are after their third moult - and they are eating like mad - large fruit flies, Indianmeal moths, small max moths - it took only three days to feed them to a level when their abdomens were loaded...

Tell me, just how much voracious will they become when adult?

 
How large? They say one inch - but they said the same about O. Distinctus - today my female moulted into adulthood, and she is only 1.5 cm - you can't call that an inch, now can you? ;)

I reluctantly agreed to buy those mantids - but Joanna was very persuasive... thank God! Now it's me favorite!

 
1.5 cm sounds like the size of an adult male, all my female grow to slightly above an inch, and adult male come up to about 0.75 inch. Do you have a pic of your specimen next to a ruler?

Yeah i am sure Empiu (Joanna) likes this species too.

 
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I do not have a camera good enough to make a picture like that :(

With 1.5 cm I was referring to O. Distinctus - that is the size of my adult female, nasty little beast - her arms are so massive!

My Odontomantids are almost all after their third moult, so up to 12 milimiters if fed.

Joanna never had a chance to experience how cool this species is, as I mentioned in one of my PM, all of her Taiwaneese died, most likely due to a food poisoning - mine are doing well, Im expecting one that moulted five days ago to molt quite soon!

 
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