They haaaaaaatched!!!!!!!!!

[hysteresis]

I do but typical Canadian BS, they just don’t sell em. I even went to Walmart and again nothing. So I ordered a bunch of 16 ounce cups. I’ll cut the lids and hot glue some very fine mesh. That’s what’s waiting for me first thing tomorrow morning. 

That's gonna be soooo much work.

I'd like to find some of that filter paper they line vented 32 oz lids with. In sheets or rolls. 

 

[omar morsy]

Yeah I’m going to be scrambling tomorrow to find a solution.

 

[omar morsy]

Right now I’ve separated them into 4 nymphs in each 16 ounce cup. 

 

[MantisGirl13]

They will start canabalizing at I think L3-4, just sepperate them ASAP and in the mean time, feed them a lot.

No, they are able to cannibalize at L2 or even before if not provided with enough food. I do agree, separate them as soon as you can, but they should be fine for a few days. 

@omar morsy Congrats on the second 'round'!

- MantisGirl13

 

[omar morsy]

Ok great, it gives me enough time to organize everything. 

 

[hysteresis]

I'm very happy for you!

 

[omar morsy]

I'm very happy for you!

Thank you I’m super happy as well

 

[Mantis Lady]

Congrats on the hatch. the little nymphs will keep you busy

 

[hysteresis]

Congrats on the hatch. the little nymphs will keep you busy

With six ooths thats 300 spinys to feed.

 

[MantisGirl13]

With six ooths thats 300 spinys to feed.

Assuming they all hatch and assuming they all hatch the same number!

- MantisGirl13

 

[Jaywo]

That is a lot of Spiny's. Congrats!

 

[hysteresis]

Assuming they all hatch and assuming they all hatch the same number!

- MantisGirl13

Even at half, i'd go MENTAL raising 150 nymphs!

 

[omar morsy]

It’s not so bad, it took me just 30 min to feed 61 nymphs. The only issue I’m facing now is 8 hours later and I still see 2 fruitflies per 16 ounce container. The mantises are not eating  

im hoping tomorrow I see at least 1 left.

i hope...

 

[hysteresis]

It’s not so bad, it took me just 30 min to feed 61 nymphs. The only issue I’m facing now is 8 hours later and I still see 2 fruitflies per 16 ounce container. The mantises are not eating  

im hoping tomorrow I see at least 1 left.

i hope...

Remember, i'm still a novice. Don't take my advice unsupported by someone else.

Hydei are larger than melanogaster. What FF do you have?

Maybe 2X FF per nymph isn't enough, based on how densely distributed the FF are.

16 oz deli cups are too big for L1 nymphs IMO.

So three things:

• are your FF too big for spinys?
  
• is there enough FF density for your cups?
  
• maybe you should look into 2 oz or 4 oz deli cups
  

@Aristalochia taught me to put 5X FF per nymph in the 4 oz deli cups. As I am using small mason jars (like a small standard marmalade jar), we increased that to 15X FF based on volume. They ate like crazy.

Just sharing my tiny bit of experience.

 

[omar morsy]

Here is a picture of my set up. Should I add a boat load of fruit flies per container?

i always thought it was just 2 fruit flies per mantis? That more than 2 fruit flies would stress them out?

 

[omar morsy]

As for the type of fruit flies ............I’m not sure what they are.... I’m sorry I know it’s rediculous but those were the only fruit flies available to me from my LPS.

 

[hysteresis]

Those are hydei. As I understand it, might be too big. They're practically the size of your nymphs. 

Id say throw 5 or 6 in each cup so there's usually a ff in close. 

Those hydei will be perfect at L2 and L3.

 

[omar morsy]

Ok I’ll do exactly that, I’ll add more so there are at least 6 fruit flies per Nymph. Thank you so much.

 

[hysteresis]

Ok I’ll do exactly that, I’ll add more so there are at least 6 fruit flies per Nymph. Thank you so much.

No guarantee, because we always hear that mantises will avoid prey that is too large compared to their own size. 

Different species are known to vary in this limit. Some are said to be very brave like that, whereas others are extremely skittish.

Again, I feel foolish professing about newly hatched nymphs because i've fed zero new nymph babies in my life.

 

[omar morsy]

Oh No!!!!

i have no access to any fruit flies smaller then these Hydeis! 

Anyone here have experience feeding these little guys?