Ugly Wings and Breeding

[glock34girl]

Hey all:

My H. majuscula female did not expand her wings correctly. How does this affect breeding?

 

[aNisip]

It usually won't...if the male is determined enough, he'll still be able to connect...and that doesn't look too bad...he should still connect

 

[mantid_mike]

I've had a few females with messed up wings and it has never affected the mating process. She'll be ok.

 

[glock34girl]

Ohhhhh! I always thought it was one of those issues where she wouldn't be perceived as attractive or able to attract the attention of the male with flawed wings. I know there's a proper term for that but it escapes me at the moment.

About how long do I wait before attempting to breed?

 

[glock34girl]

Aesthetically I personally don't think she looks terrible. Just looks like maybe she's wearing a cape. Lol perhaps name her Rogue lol

 

[lancaster1313]

I had one who's wings were flared like a perpetual threat pose.

She had a certain effect on the males, but those males wouldn't mate with typical looking females either.

I think if I had some more determined males, I would have been able to breed those Chinese mantids. I really don't know what went wrong there.

 

[ScienceGirl]

As far as genes being passed down for future generations... If the wing problem was caused by a bad molt: and it was from genetics, her offspring may have a tendency to have bad molts; and it was from variables beyond her or her genes control (i.e. temperature, lighting, food, things in the way, humidity, etc.) her offspring should be fine.

This undoubtedly would happen in the wild, if by only a small percentage. I've read many posts of people who's mantids had bad molts. In captivity, a limited number of casualties seems normal. Your girl is lucky to have her life, wings, and limbs.

 

[glock34girl]

As far as genes being passed down for future generations... If the wing problem was caused by a bad molt: and it was from genetics, her offspring may have a tendency to have bad molts; and it was from variables beyond her or her genes control (i.e. temperature, lighting, food, things in the way, humidity, etc.) her offspring should be fine.

This undoubtedly would happen in the wild, if by only a small percentage. I've read many posts of people who's mantids had bad molts. In captivity, a limited number of casualties seems normal. Your girl is lucky to have her life, wings, and limbs.

I'm pretty confident that since she made it to adult with all good molts its likely not a generics thing. Not sure why it happened. Maybe my humidity was off. Male molted fine. What Iam asking actually is, do the funky wings discourage a male from wanting to mate.

 

[Tony C]

 

[glock34girl]

No you may not eat my mantid!

 

[lancaster1313]

Jeesh! It doesn't look that bad. lol

 

[glock34girl]

She cracks me up. I don't tho k she likes the feeling of them. She keeps Bobbi g and shaking her rump. Lol

 

[lancaster1313]

She cracks me up. I don't tho k she likes the feeling of them. She keeps Bobbi g and shaking her rump. Lol

When the wings turn out weird, many mantids will keep trying to adjust them, especially in the first few days. It probably does feel wrong to them.

 

[glock34girl]

Yeah she fiddles around and then try's to hang at an angle to let them fall like she should have after her molt. Poor girl. Don't have the heart to tell her she's screwed.