Unknown species from Madagascar

[Precarious]

The inside of the raptors. Could be tenodera superstitiosa.

I'll have to take your word for it. I can't find any images of that species' inner raptors.

In the mean time I'll hope it's some Solygia species. And while I'm at it, that adults grant three wishes and lay golden ooths filled with rubies. :sorcerer: Yeah! That's the ticket!

 

[gripen]

I'll have to take your word for it. I can't find any images of that species' inner raptors.

In the mean time I'll hope it's some Solygia species. And while I'm at it, that adults grant three wishes and lay golden ooths filled with rubies. :sorcerer: Yeah! That's the ticket!Hehehehe good luck with them!

 

[brancsikia339]

Could be tenodera but ive raised t. Sinensis for years and none looked like that. Maybe add a thesprotia sp into the mix

 

[guapoalto049]

I found some T. superstitiosa in Tanzania but I can't remember if they have black marks like that. Will check my pics later, but I hope it is Solygia!

 

[guapoalto049]

Do you have any better pictures of the face?

 

[Precarious]

Do you have any better pictures of the face?

I'm tied up today but that's the next thing on the agenda. I know their face is more like Brunneria than the classic mantid face. I'll also get closeups of that last abdominal segment since Solygia has an overhang as they mature. May not be visible yet but should be some indication of what's to come if it is Solygia.

 

[guapoalto049]

Yeah all projections take awhile to show. Take a look for horizontal stripes on the face, while this obviously isn't a clear indicator of anything, it would be another factor to point in that direction.

I am almost positive it is a Solygia sp. Horizontal stripes on the eyes (not sure about the face), relatively short tibia compared to the femur, body proportions, etc. Don't quote me on it though

 

[Precarious]

Do you have any better pictures of the face?

I think it's too early to ID these nymphs but here are more photos. Nothing conclusive. I should try to sex them since I believe only female Solygia have the extended last segment.

 

[guapoalto049]

Nice shots! Only time will tell, and yes I think you're right about the female.

 

[Termite48]

Henry: I believe I have four of the same species. I see with my 7X loop and through the plastic 80 oz container sides (somewhat blurry), at least two black spots on the inner aspect of the upper portion of the raptorial. I also faintly can see a dark to light to dark banding on the inner section of the middle legs. There are no hints of green color as with Tenedora sp. Mine are possbily L-4 to L-5 and very long at this point, at perhaps 1-1/2".

Rich

 

[Termite48]

Henry: I examined one of mine closely from the underside (Ventral view) and I noticed a front to rear running whitish strip along the mid-line from the middle pair of legs to the rear set of legs. This might be another characteristic that we can use to make a positive I.D. Let me know if yours shows the same stripe. It is not brightly colored.

 

[gripen]

Any updates?

 

[Precarious]

Any updates?

Molted. Now over 2" and reddish.

Henry: I examined one of mine closely from the underside (Ventral view) and I noticed a front to rear running whitish strip along the mid-line from the middle pair of legs to the rear set of legs. This might be another characteristic that we can use to make a positive I.D. Let me know if yours shows the same stripe. It is not brightly colored.

We got them from the same source so we can assume they are the same.

 

[Termite48]

Of the two I have remaning, neither of them has this coloration. They are over 2" in length, one is more greenish, and one is more on the brown side. They are different containers, but eating wild caught green bottle flies and an occasional Sarcophagid species. Ones epecially likes to be totally laid out with its raptorials stretched all the way horizontal. One likes to have its long body bent at the natural hinge point, the other keeps it straight. Nice pic showing the lateral whitish stripe.

 

[gripen]

Wow they are stunning! Do you have any more full body pictures? Do you think you at least have a pair?

 

[psyconiko]

I am still thinking it is a Tenodera sp.Any ideas?

 

[Precarious]

One likes to have its long body bent at the natural hinge point, the other keeps it straight.

Rich be careful if the body looks crimped. The body should bend like a banana but if there is a sharp fold in the body it will likely have a bad molt. That's what happened to mine. The other is also creased so I'm watching it closely to assist during molt. I've only ever seen this happen with Brunneria borealis, another long-bodied species. In the wild they tend to hang at an incline but in deli cups they hang at the highest point which is horizontal. This causes the carapace to crease while still soft and can lead to constriction causing blockage and death or getting stuck during molt.

Wow they are stunning! Do you have any more full body pictures? Do you think you at least have a pair?

Of the 3 I have I lost one to a bad molt. No idea on sex yet. The other is preparing for molt.

Here are more photos of the Pink Panther!

 

[psyconiko]

:cowboy:

 

[Precarious]

I am still thinking it is a Tenodera sp.Any ideas?

No idea. I know there is a pinkish red species of Solygia but these show none of the horizontal stripes on the face. Check out the last photo above.

 

[brancsikia339]

It's a solygia. Here's a pic from another site