what is the difference limbata and carolina?

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Yeah I went back and looked and it is very faint. A member here is looking at doing a taxonomy of stagmomantis. Maybe once he is done it will help clear up some confusion.

 
...There are lots of sublte differences to add too. The limbata wins seem more 'boxy' with a sharper trundown on the sides. The tips of the limbata wings seem rounder/broader.

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I also think limbata has a sharper corner where the wing covers the lower 'eye spot':

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...There are lots of sublte differences to add too. The limbata wins seem more 'boxy' with a sharper trundown on the sides. The tips of the limbata wings seem rounder/broader.
+1

Yes, I remember seeing those too on the limbatas. Thanks for reminding me.

 
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Finally got the gray limbata (Gwyn) irritated enough to take some wing pics last night:
The wings look just like carolina and this one has the dark spot on the wings. Are you sure that one is limbata?

 
The wings look just like carolina and this one has the dark spot on the wings. Are you sure that one is limbata?
I'm pretty sure. Take a look at the first large pic. The spot, while not yellow, doesn't have a blackish dark spot but is in fact lighter in the center. She was also wild caught here, and the rest of the identifying features we've all discussed in this thread and others are all pointing towards limbata.

 
The spot looks darker in the first pic in the last post you made with pics. Need to get them side by side.

 

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