Krissim Klaw
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Ahh sorry, I thought in a previous post you mentioned a number of yours also passing. I must have read it wrong.
What is up with S. californica!!!???
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ismart
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When my ooths first hatched i had placed them all in net cubes. They did well in these till about L4. I then sold most of them, and the few remaining were put in 32oz cups. I'm sure older nymphs, and adults would do just fine in net cubes.
they like it DRY!!!
Krissim Klaw
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Thank you for the input. I must admit I am a pretty big fan of the net cubes. A lot of space for the price and they are easy to stack and move around. I like how easy they are for most species to hang on. Admittedly, I have no experience with the deli cups since I've never used them outside of my fruitfly cultures.
MantidLord
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I wish I would've woken up earlier and read this.
Thanks for the offer ismart, you're awesome man. Had I known about them earlier I would've taken you up on your offer, but I'll just send the male to Agent A.
Agent A, don't worry we still have our deal. We'll split the ooths and if you want, take ismart up on his offer and breed them. You'll be the "breeder" until we get a next generation. If not, just breed your female as planned. We have to keep these guys common in the culture, too many cool species have just gone to the wayside.
The next time I try this species, I will try and up the temps a little more and will experiment with giving them more ventilation. Since they supposedly live in Southern California (even though I've heard some say Northern California), they would be exposed to arid and hot temperatures. Of course that experimenting will have to wait until I get nymphs but I will definitely try it.
On a side note, I actually feel bad for my male. Here he is lonely and wanting a mate, while the one male European that I have is surrounded by four virgin female Europeans and refuses to make a move on any of them. Some guys get all the luck. Anyway, it's up to you now Agent A, don't fail. And where's Massaman? What happened to his mated female?
Thanks for the offer ismart, you're awesome man. Had I known about them earlier I would've taken you up on your offer, but I'll just send the male to Agent A.
Agent A, don't worry we still have our deal. We'll split the ooths and if you want, take ismart up on his offer and breed them. You'll be the "breeder" until we get a next generation. If not, just breed your female as planned. We have to keep these guys common in the culture, too many cool species have just gone to the wayside.
The next time I try this species, I will try and up the temps a little more and will experiment with giving them more ventilation. Since they supposedly live in Southern California (even though I've heard some say Northern California), they would be exposed to arid and hot temperatures. Of course that experimenting will have to wait until I get nymphs but I will definitely try it.
On a side note, I actually feel bad for my male. Here he is lonely and wanting a mate, while the one male European that I have is surrounded by four virgin female Europeans and refuses to make a move on any of them. Some guys get all the luck. Anyway, it's up to you now Agent A, don't fail. And where's Massaman? What happened to his mated female?
Crazy4mantis
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They run wild where I live. Find one every other day in the fall.ok so this species is rare in culture, only like 4 peeps have them and u r not breeding them?
mantisboy
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If you are need of some male euros let me know, this is the time of year they are everywhere in Idaho. No charge outside of shipping and I have successfully shipped in the past.
I'm just going to throw this out there, it's probably completely unrelated but thought it worth noting. Last year I took some cuttings from a Maple tree for one of my housing. After 2 days I noticed the female wasn't doing well, she was on the bottom of the housing and her front legs were clutched tight.
When I remove the top of her housing it was apparent what had happened. The branches were fresh off the tree and as they were drying out in the housing there was a strong smell like turpentine. I instantly removed her, heavily misted her and put her on a towel, but it was too late.
Like I said, probably unrelated but thought I would just toss that in the mix.
Now I only use branches from certain trees and set them on top of BBQ for a couple of days until they are completely dry.
I'm just going to throw this out there, it's probably completely unrelated but thought it worth noting. Last year I took some cuttings from a Maple tree for one of my housing. After 2 days I noticed the female wasn't doing well, she was on the bottom of the housing and her front legs were clutched tight.
When I remove the top of her housing it was apparent what had happened. The branches were fresh off the tree and as they were drying out in the housing there was a strong smell like turpentine. I instantly removed her, heavily misted her and put her on a towel, but it was too late.
Like I said, probably unrelated but thought I would just toss that in the mix.
Now I only use branches from certain trees and set them on top of BBQ for a couple of days until they are completely dry.
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MantidLord
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Crazy4mantis, you're positive they're californica? That's great. If all else fails I know who to go to for some wild ones. I thought they were pretty hard to find outdoors.
Idahomantid, I think you and I may be the few that still deal with M. religiosa besides the people new to the hobby. But I'm good in the M. religiosa department. They're everywhere here I just haven't really gone out to find some, besides the occasional one on the house. About the euro male, it was a joke, the fact that he has all these females and does nothing while the california male is without females atm. I have relatives in Boise and they're starting to send me pictures of the mantids they run across (all Euros) so I believe you when you say they're everywhere.. But if push comes to shove, I'll just go outside and catch some males (I need to catch mantids soon anyway for Rick and Womantis).
About the Maple tree cuttings, that's useful info, and the clutched arms thing is exactly what she was doing. But I had the twigs and branches for a while and any new ones I got I made sure they were completely soaked and hard rinsed with hot water before introducing. Not to mention I use the same branches for all the mantids.
Idahomantid, I think you and I may be the few that still deal with M. religiosa besides the people new to the hobby. But I'm good in the M. religiosa department. They're everywhere here I just haven't really gone out to find some, besides the occasional one on the house. About the euro male, it was a joke, the fact that he has all these females and does nothing while the california male is without females atm. I have relatives in Boise and they're starting to send me pictures of the mantids they run across (all Euros) so I believe you when you say they're everywhere.. But if push comes to shove, I'll just go outside and catch some males (I need to catch mantids soon anyway for Rick and Womantis).
About the Maple tree cuttings, that's useful info, and the clutched arms thing is exactly what she was doing. But I had the twigs and branches for a while and any new ones I got I made sure they were completely soaked and hard rinsed with hot water before introducing. Not to mention I use the same branches for all the mantids.
Sneaky123
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This seems to happen with limbatas too, only not as frequently
frogparty
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Considering where I see the Californicas thrive, Id say HOT, low humidity. Id treat like Idolos.....At my dads in Murrieta its so damn hot right now, and they are going bonkers in his garden
MantidLord
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Okay, so I'll treat them like Iris oratoria then. Thanks for the info.
Crazy4mantis
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Crazy4mantis
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But i'll have to check.
if u can catch me a few adult calis and send them to u i might send u a few parahymenopus if ismart and i do a trade...
Krissim Klaw
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My boy, Lazarus, feels for your male. He has been surrounded by all girls since I got him but none are his species. He is such an active roamer at night too, always flitering and racing around his cage. I know he is trying to search for some pretty ladies.
mantid_mike
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Based on where i found my californica's ooth, I think you're pretty spot on. they like the heat, i'd say about 80-90 suits them well. I have a male and female Californica, both @ L5 and doing fine. Hopefully they reach adulthood so i can start sending off some ooths.
Krissim Klaw
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No, different species but same issue of having no girlies to love on.
MantidLord
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Okay great, well it's good to know the people who have access to wild populations.I'll definitely contact you guys sooner or later, sooner if the plans I made with Agent A don't work out.
Krissim Klaw, yeah I really feel bad for him. Mine just sits in his container and looks at the other mantids. While my euro male just sits there afraid to make a move.
Krissim Klaw, yeah I really feel bad for him. Mine just sits in his container and looks at the other mantids. While my euro male just sits there afraid to make a move.
