What mantis is this?

[Rick]

I was thinking stagmomantis of some sort. Found in Utah.

http://webpages.charter.net/palouns/IMG_2083.JPG

 

[dakota]

wow beautiful but sorry i have no idea

 

[scitch]

its a nice pic im a noob so i cannot help sorry

 

[robo mantis]

i think carolina mantis not shure

 

[dakota]

maybe

 

[Jesse]

How about only posting if you have a good idea people, instead of littering the thread with "I don't knows".

Anyway, it looks a lot like an Iris oratoria to me, but I am not sure if they've been reported in Utah yet? They look very similar to Stagmomantis. It is difficult to tell with just one angle.

 

[Rick]

Yeah I figured it was a version of statmomantis.

 

[Andrew]

I agree with Jesse. Its probably an Iris oratoria.

Thanks,

Andrew

 

[DeShawn]

I agree with Jesse as well, it is I. oratoria. You can tell by the light colored line on the wing, as well as the lack of dots on the wings that the stagmo's have.

And I want the camera used to take that pic.

 

[Rick]

What is the adult length for a female?

 

[Christian]

Hi.

I am inclined to think of Iris, too. But in Utah? :?

Regards,

Christian

 

[Joe]

Nice catch rick! What you have there is a california mantis Heres a pic of one http://bugguide.net/node/view/5678 and heres the page with the pics of california mantids http://www.bugguide.net/node/view/7985. but if i'm wrong, and if its possibly a Iris oratoria, look for a red-orange spot on or close to the secong-to-last segment of the underside of its abdomen. Hope its pregnant

Joe

 

[Obie]

I agree with I. oratoria. Length and shape of wings (narrower and shorter than Stagmomantis), shape of abdomen (Stagmomantis is flatter), and thickness of the femurs (thinner than Stagmomantis) on the forelegs give it away.

 

[Rick]

I didn't catch it Joe. Somebody on another site saw it and took pics and I was helpin them figure out what it was.

 

[Joe]

ah gotchya, if its Iris Oratoria then look for a red-orange spot on the underside of its abdomen near the 2nd to last otherwise its a california mantids or at least another species

Joe